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The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...area-1-7007924

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On Tuesday, 13 October 2015 13:02:22 UTC+1, Bob Martin wrote:
The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...area-1-7007924



Like they have party political broadcasts, every autumn the Met Office should be allowed to have a few minutes on TV to point out that all the weather headlines that will follow in the months to come are made up and not associated with them!
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On 13/10/2015 13:02, Bob Martin wrote:
The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...area-1-7007924


This particular story has been doing the rounds of on-line newspapers
for several weeks. As you say the source is never mentioned although the
on-line Daily Telegraph* got as far as quoting 'agency' yesterday.
Despite the nonsense these stories tend to stick on the websites
presumably because they attract the punters.

* I only look at it because it has nice pictures - honest

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On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 1:02:22 PM UTC+1, Bob Martin wrote:
The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...area-1-7007924


All I can say is 'idiots'. Not you Bob! The source and the papers for quoting it. A 10p says it's Jonathan Powell.
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On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 2:18:37 PM UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 1:02:22 PM UTC+1, Bob Martin wrote:
The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...area-1-7007924


All I can say is 'idiots'. Not you Bob! The source and the papers for quoting it. A 10p says it's Jonathan Powell.


It took a very quick Google search to confirm.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature...ic-snow-freeze

The man is an idiot. Anyone disagree?


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On 13/10/2015 14:18, Dawlish wrote:
On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 1:02:22 PM UTC+1, Bob Martin wrote:
The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...area-1-7007924


All I can say is 'idiots'. Not you Bob! The source and the papers for quoting it. A 10p says it's Jonathan Powell.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Leon Brown, of The Weather Channel UK, said: ‘The main theme for this
week is drier weather but also turning quite a bit colder.’

He said overnight temperatures will touch freezing in parts of the
country with widespread frosts likely under clear skies.

‘This is most likely over Scotland on Tuesday and Wednesday morning, but
later in the week temperatures close to freezing in the south too by
Friday morning.’

Which is not unreasonable. It is pathetic journalists as well as the
pathetic Exacta Weather etc. that cause the problems.
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On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 8:02:22 AM UTC-4, Bob Martin wrote:
The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...area-1-7007924


========

It's a fellow named James Madden who calls himself "Exacta Weather", aided and abetted by the sensationalist "journalist" Nathan Rao; and it's been more or less the same garbage every year for the last three years. Coldest, snowiest winter for 50 years, or 100 years; or "as bad as 1962/63."

He's obsessed with the idea of low solar output (Maunder Minimum style) leading to a rapid "little ice age" onset.

It didn't work out last year so he's now invented a twelve month "lag". Or, given that it didn't work out the year before either, shouldn't that be a 24 month lag?

Stephen.
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:35:31 -0700 (PDT)
Stephen Davenport wrote:

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 8:02:22 AM UTC-4, Bob Martin wrote:
The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...area-1-7007924


========

It's a fellow named James Madden who calls himself "Exacta Weather",
aided and abetted by the sensationalist "journalist" Nathan Rao; and
it's been more or less the same garbage every year for the last three
years. Coldest, snowiest winter for 50 years, or 100 years; or "as
bad as 1962/63."

He's obsessed with the idea of low solar output (Maunder Minimum
style) leading to a rapid "little ice age" onset.

It didn't work out last year so he's now invented a twelve month
"lag". Or, given that it didn't work out the year before either,
shouldn't that be a 24 month lag?


Facebookers might be interested in following this:
https://www.facebook.com/Exacta-Weat...meline/?ref=ts
The latest article refers to this year's Express article:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weathe...er-forecast-UK
And from a couple of year's ago:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/442...ting-next-week


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On 13/10/2015 13:02, Bob Martin wrote:
The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.


http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...-conditions-se
to-hit-portsmouth-area-1-7007924


This particular story has been doing the rounds of on-line newspapers
for several weeks. As you say the source is never mentioned although
the on-line Daily Telegraph* got as far as quoting 'agency' yesterday.
Despite the nonsense these stories tend to stick on the websites
presumably because they attract the punters.

* I only look at it because it has nice pictures - honest


The story on the front page of today's paper Telegraph is based on a
Bewick's Swan having on Sunday made the earliest return to the
Slimbridge wildfowl reserve in the 50 years that the reserve has been
monitoring. It doesn't seem to have occurred to either the Telegraph or
the avian experts that this might be a result of the unusually early
cold snap across northern Europe in recent days rather than having any
forecasting value for future conditions.
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:02:20 +0100, Bob Martin
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The News (Portsmouth):
"An early weather warning has been issued across the UK
as experts forecast months of freezing conditions in what is
expected to be the worst winter in half-a-century."

Doesn't say who the "experts" are.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/wea...area-1-7007924



Same rhubarb in the Daily Excess

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weathe...er-forecast-UK


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