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Daily Telegraph provides the odds for your location.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...this-year.html

I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd go for Leeds at 7/2 with Ladbrokes.

10/1 for Penzance seems very reasonable :-)

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On 26/11/2015 23:39, Len Wood wrote:
Daily Telegraph provides the odds for your location.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...this-year.html

I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd go for Leeds at 7/2 with Ladbrokes.

10/1 for Penzance seems very reasonable :-)


But how often does Penzance actually have a white Christmas?



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On 27/11/2015 06:45, Vidcapper wrote:
On 26/11/2015 23:39, Len Wood wrote:
Daily Telegraph provides the odds for your location.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...this-year.html


I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd go for Leeds at 7/2 with
Ladbrokes.

10/1 for Penzance seems very reasonable :-)


But how often does Penzance actually have a white Christmas?



I'm sure Graham Easterling can tell us but a lot less than one year in
10 I'm sure!

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Daily Telegraph provides the odds for your location.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...this-year.html

I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd go for Leeds at 7/2 with
Ladbrokes.

10/1 for Penzance seems very reasonable :-)


Using my data the odds for Haytor (snow lying) are 3/1 .

Will
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On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 6:49:51 AM UTC, Col wrote:
On 27/11/2015 06:45, Vidcapper wrote:
On 26/11/2015 23:39, Len Wood wrote:
Daily Telegraph provides the odds for your location.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...this-year.html


I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd go for Leeds at 7/2 with
Ladbrokes.

10/1 for Penzance seems very reasonable :-)


But how often does Penzance actually have a white Christmas?



I'm sure Graham Easterling can tell us but a lot less than one year in
10 I'm sure!

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Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


Well, since 1990 (last 25 years) snow has not fallen on Christmas day.

A few near misses though:-
23/12/2001 Snow fell.
27/12/2005 Eve Snow hail shower briefly settled. Max temp 4.7C Min 0.4C
22/12/2010 Snow pellet shower gave an icy dusting Max Temp 4.3C Min -3.0
23/10/2010 Snow/hail showers briefly settled. Max Temp 4.0C Min -1.3

Snow falling is not as rare as you might think, as we are surrounded by warm sea, so we get precipitation on virtually all northerlies (when it's often virtually cloudless east of the Tamar) & many easterlies, which can give very heavy snow, as in 1987 http://www.turnstone-cottage.co.uk/1987Snow.pdf


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On 27/11/2015 08:26, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Len Wood" wrote in message
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Daily Telegraph provides the odds for your location.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...this-year.html


I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd go for Leeds at 7/2 with
Ladbrokes.

10/1 for Penzance seems very reasonable :-)


Using my data the odds for Haytor (snow lying) are 3/1 .

Will


I can never remember any in my lifetime here at Southend-on-Sea, a
couple of years when it stayed about and was thawing, but never actually
snowed on the day. So my odds would need to be 55 : 1

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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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On 27/11/2015 08:26, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Len Wood" wrote in message
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Daily Telegraph provides the odds for your location.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...this-year.html


I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd go for Leeds at 7/2 with
Ladbrokes.

10/1 for Penzance seems very reasonable :-)


Using my data the odds for Haytor (snow lying) are 3/1 .


I can never remember any in my lifetime here at Southend-on-Sea, a couple
of years when it stayed about and was thawing, but never actually snowed
on the day. So my odds would need to be 55 : 1


One of the things I enjoy about living at altitude. It has its downsides of
course with lots of fog and rain but that first white Christmas back in 2004
when we had heavy snow showers and we made a small snowman will be etched in
my memory forever. I'll let you imagine how animated I was :-)

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Actually it's an odd one, because days falling are (in most places) higher than days with snow cover. After 23 Christmas's in Yorkshire I think it's 7 with snow on the ground (probably 8), but from memory the majority of those no snow fell on the day.
And Graham, you can add 1962 to snow falling and a near miss early 80's, 82/83 on the 27th I think? The snow of 1978 was too near the New Year to be included.
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On 27/11/2015 11:13, Eskimo Will wrote:
One of the things I enjoy about living at altitude. It has its downsides
of course with lots of fog and rain but that first white Christmas back
in 2004 when we had heavy snow showers and we made a small snowman will
be etched in my memory forever. I'll let you imagine how animated I was :-)


Last time I've seen snow falling on Xmas Day? It was in my student days
in London, it was 1996, leaving a bar in Camden at 2am and it was
snowing quite hard and settling.

Safely back here in Devon - the last time there was snow lying on the
ground on Xmas Day was 2010.

Before that, I cannot remember any day other than 1982 when there were a
few patches here and there.

But memory is appalling at getting these things right and I am sure
there may have been more occasions but snow is rather rare here. Go a
few miles inland and onto higher ground and things change considerably.

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On 27/11/2015 08:26, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Len Wood" wrote in message
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Daily Telegraph provides the odds for your location.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...te-christmas-2
015-willl-it-snow-where-you-live-in-the-uk-this-year.html


I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd go for Leeds at 7/2 with
Ladbrokes.

10/1 for Penzance seems very reasonable :-)


Using my data the odds for Haytor (snow lying) are 3/1 .

Will


I can never remember any in my lifetime here at Southend-on-Sea, a
couple of years when it stayed about and was thawing, but never
actually snowed on the day. So my odds would need to be 55 : 1


I can remember snow lying here in Cranleigh in 1970, 1981, 2009 and
2010. Only on the first of those occasions did it actually snow on the
day. For snow falling on the day, I think there was a brief flurry on
one occasion way back in the 1960s or 1970s, and there could have been
others during the hours of darkness that I missed, but that 1970
instance is the only occasion from the 1960s onwards of "proper" snow
falling on Christmas Day.
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