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Sad, but fits with my observations and counts this summer. This was a poor year, especially for gatekeepers.

http://butterfly-conservation.org/48/news-and-blog.html

Periods of longer summer droughts, likely to be associated with UK climate change this century, may well exacerbate the problem.

Nature August 2015 (actually free to read!!)

http://bit.ly/1ml9ZiZ

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On 15/12/2015 08:25, Dawlish wrote:
Sad, but fits with my observations and counts this summer. This was a poor year, especially for gatekeepers.

http://butterfly-conservation.org/48/news-and-blog.html

Periods of longer summer droughts, likely to be associated with UK climate change this century, may well exacerbate the problem.

Nature August 2015 (actually free to read!!)

http://bit.ly/1ml9ZiZ

It's disgrace. I think the neonicotinoids were recently banned but I
believe it may be under review. Gatekeepers were ok here last year but
with the bees as well it is very worrying. Interestingly I saw a Red
Admiral flying around the other day. They overwinter and you sometimes
disturb them in a shed but I've never seen one flying around in a field
this late before.
Dave
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On Tuesday, 15 December 2015 08:25:07 UTC, Dawlish wrote:
Sad, but fits with my observations and counts this summer. This was a poor year, especially for gatekeepers.

http://butterfly-conservation.org/48/news-and-blog.html

Periods of longer summer droughts, likely to be associated with UK climate change this century, may well exacerbate the problem.

Nature August 2015 (actually free to read!!)

http://bit.ly/1ml9ZiZ


Don't worry Paris has now saved the world and the butterfly, unfortunately your are an idiot too far , even for great minds like Harrison Ford and Leonardo ( green yacht boy)
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On Tuesday, 15 December 2015 09:25:07 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
Sad, but fits with my observations and counts this summer. This was a poor year, especially for gatekeepers.

http://butterfly-conservation.org/48/news-and-blog.html

Periods of longer summer droughts, likely to be associated with UK climate change this century, may well exacerbate the problem.

Nature August 2015 (actually free to read!!)

http://bit.ly/1ml9ZiZ


Stop talking ******** Garvey. Weather prediction 50 years into the future is impossible, despite any computer model fantasies you have.

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On 15/12/2015 08:25, Dawlish wrote:
Sad, but fits with my observations and counts this summer. This was a
poor year, especially for gatekeepers.

http://butterfly-conservation.org/48/news-and-blog.html

Periods of longer summer droughts, likely to be associated with UK
climate change this century, may well exacerbate the problem.

Nature August 2015 (actually free to read!!)

http://bit.ly/1ml9ZiZ

It's disgrace. I think the neonicotinoids were recently banned but I
believe it may be under review. Gatekeepers were ok here last year but
with the bees as well it is very worrying. Interestingly I saw a Red
Admiral flying around the other day. They overwinter and you sometimes
disturb them in a shed but I've never seen one flying around in a
field this late before.
Dave


I think the problem is worst in the south of England with insect
populations in general. This has a knock on effect on bird populations
as insects are the main source of food for nesting birds. Bird
populations further north and west are holding up much better and are
increasing in some species.

To keep things on topic some bird species are declining due to climate
change, Willow Tit is a good example.

Alan

Alan

Pesticides may well be part of the problem but I do woner if air quality
is a factor as well.


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Lovely little butterfly enjoying the sun in my garden in France on Saturday morning. No idea what it was, but not a gatekeeper.
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:00:37 -0800 (PST)
john_evermore wrote:

On Tuesday, 15 December 2015 09:25:07 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
Sad, but fits with my observations and counts this summer. This was
a poor year, especially for gatekeepers.

http://butterfly-conservation.org/48/news-and-blog.html

Periods of longer summer droughts, likely to be associated with UK
climate change this century, may well exacerbate the problem.

Nature August 2015 (actually free to read!!)

http://bit.ly/1ml9ZiZ


Stop talking ******** Garvey. Weather prediction 50 years into the
future is impossible, despite any computer model fantasies you have.


You are correct in saying that Weather prediction 50 years into the
future is impossible but prediction of climate changes due to changes
in CO2 isn't.

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I think the problem is worst in the south of England with insect
populations in general. This has a knock on effect on bird populations
as insects are the main source of food for nesting birds. Bird
populations further north and west are holding up much better and are
increasing in some species.

To keep things on topic some bird species are declining due to climate
change, Willow Tit is a good example.

Alan

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Lots of bird species are declining and it is pretty obvious it is things
linked to climate change and pesticides.
We go for a drive in an August evening and get home and not a dead moth
or insect to be seen on the windscreen. Used to have to spend ages
removing them before going out the next day.
Dave
(I have wondered if a more aerodynamic windscreen design is a factor as
well though?)


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I think the problem is worst in the south of England with insect
populations in general. This has a knock on effect on bird populations
as insects are the main source of food for nesting birds. Bird
populations further north and west are holding up much better and are
increasing in some species.

To keep things on topic some bird species are declining due to climate
change, Willow Tit is a good example.

Alan

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Lots of bird species are declining and it is pretty obvious it is things
linked to climate change and pesticides.
We go for a drive in an August evening and get home and not a dead moth or
insect to be seen on the windscreen. Used to have to spend ages removing
them before going out the next day.
Dave
(I have wondered if a more aerodynamic windscreen design is a factor as
well though?)


Big decline in moths and all sorts of bugs in the autumn up here in the past
13 years. Used to have two big colonies of house martins every year in the
eaves, now they try, may get a couple of pairs, but most give up as there
are very few flying insects around now in early summer. Still plenty of bees
and butterflys though but far fewer wasps (thank goodness).

Will
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far fewer wasps (thank goodness).

They've all decamped north and into my house. When I came home
last Friday after a few days away there were literally hundreds
of them lying dead on the kitchen window sill, and I've caught
and killed several more since then. Thank goodness for the frost
at the weekend - with luck that should have put paid to the rest
of them until the spring. Loathsome things.

Anne




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