On Thursday, 4 February 2016 09:58:21 UTC, wrote:

The MetO have a lot of exciting ensemble presentations including entropy,
clustering etc. Sadly it is all for internal use, as is their excellent
ensemble system MOGREPS.

Trying to get any Met Office (model) data in the outside world at the moment is hopeless. Weatheronline found it so sporadic that they gave up their feed and Meteociel's is spartan at best. Meteocentre appears to have an OK feed. So much for freedom of information!

Richard

"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 4 February 2016 09:58:21 UTC,
wrote:

The MetO have a lot of exciting ensemble presentations including entropy,
clustering etc. Sadly it is all for internal use, as is their excellent
ensemble system MOGREPS.

Trying to get any Met Office (model) data in the outside world at the moment
is hopeless. Weatheronline found it so sporadic that they gave up their feed
and Meteociel's is spartan at best. Meteocentre appears to have an OK feed.
So much for freedom of information!
===============

The agreement was that subsets of data were to be made freely available.
Model data is highly processed and regarded as very high commercial value by
the Met Office. Remember back in the late 1990s when radar data were highly
sought after? A compromise was reached in that 5km data would be released.
Nowadays there is 500 metre resolution and higher doppler radar data
available (for internal use). I suspect that the MetO will continue to
release older model data like EURO4 but newer products will be kept under
lock and key.

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

On Thursday, 4 February 2016 10:24:22 UTC, wrote:

The agreement was that subsets of data were to be made freely available.
Model data is highly processed and regarded as very high commercial value by
the Met Office. Remember back in the late 1990s when radar data were highly
sought after? A compromise was reached in that 5km data would be released..
Nowadays there is 500 metre resolution and higher doppler radar data
available (for internal use). I suspect that the MetO will continue to
release older model data like EURO4 but newer products will be kept under
lock and key.

It's not just the breadth of data but how sporadically disseminated it is. For instance Meteociel now only show T+96, 120 and 144. I'm pretty sure I wrote to the Met Office about this a while back but got the cursory "thanks for your email". Might try again...

Richard

"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 4 February 2016 10:24:22 UTC,
wrote:

The agreement was that subsets of data were to be made freely available.
Model data is highly processed and regarded as very high commercial value
by
the Met Office. Remember back in the late 1990s when radar data were
highly
sought after? A compromise was reached in that 5km data would be released.
Nowadays there is 500 metre resolution and higher doppler radar data
available (for internal use). I suspect that the MetO will continue to
release older model data like EURO4 but newer products will be kept under
lock and key.

It's not just the breadth of data but how sporadically disseminated it is.
For instance Meteociel now only show T+96, 120 and 144. I'm pretty sure I
wrote to the Met Office about this a while back but got the cursory "thanks
for your email". Might try again...
==============

I often find that with big organizations that writing direct to the Chief
Exec stating your case can yield a bit more than a thank you message.
is your man.

Of course you could always use ****ter :-)

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

On Thursday, 4 February 2016 10:50:14 UTC, wrote:

I often find that with big organizations that writing direct to the Chief
Exec stating your case can yield a bit more than a thank you message.
is your man.

I could give it a go !

Of course you could always use ****ter :-)

Sometimes 140 characters are not enough...(and the end recipient probably doesn't understand - harsh?).

Richard

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 10:23:20 -0000, "Eskimo Will"
wrote:


"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 4 February 2016 09:58:21 UTC,
wrote:

The MetO have a lot of exciting ensemble presentations including entropy,
clustering etc. Sadly it is all for internal use, as is their excellent
ensemble system MOGREPS.

Trying to get any Met Office (model) data in the outside world at the moment
is hopeless. Weatheronline found it so sporadic that they gave up their feed
and Meteociel's is spartan at best. Meteocentre appears to have an OK feed.
So much for freedom of information!
===============

The agreement was that subsets of data were to be made freely available.
Model data is highly processed and regarded as very high commercial value by
the Met Office. Remember back in the late 1990s when radar data were highly
sought after? A compromise was reached in that 5km data would be released.
Nowadays there is 500 metre resolution and higher doppler radar data
available (for internal use). I suspect that the MetO will continue to
release older model data like EURO4 but newer products will be kept under
lock and key.

Will

The 500 metre resolution radar imagery in 5-min timesteps is available from
Netweather. I have an old netbook displaying it continuously on a 19" monitor.
It updates automatically every 5 minutes, about 7 minutes behind real time and
has almost unlimited zoom in/out. Such a service would have been beyond my
wildest dreams 10-15 years ago. It even has the option to overlay SFERICS.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 02:58:07 -0800 (PST)
Richard Dixon wrote:

On Thursday, 4 February 2016 10:50:14 UTC,
wrote:

I often find that with big organizations that writing direct to the
Chief Exec stating your case can yield a bit more than a thank you
message. is your man.

I could give it a go !

Of course you could always use ****ter :-)

Sometimes 140 characters are not enough...(and the end recipient
probably doesn't understand - harsh?).

Richard

There are several systems for posting messages longer than 140 chars on
Twitter. Some split the long message into a sequence of Twitter
messages whilst others provide a link to the full message.

In addition to those, you can post a long message on FB and have it
automatically forwarded to Twitter where, after the start of the
original, there'll be a link back to the full message on FB.

Or you could just use FB instead of Twitter. ;-)

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer]
http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/

On Thursday, 4 February 2016 11:24:44 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:

In addition to those, you can post a long message on FB and have it
automatically forwarded to Twitter where, after the start of the
original, there'll be a link back to the full message on FB.

Or you could just use FB instead of Twitter. ;-)

I think for something like this, a serious/technical question, I'd reckon email has the most gravitas (well, 2nd to a letter on headed notepaper!).

Richard

"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 4 February 2016 11:24:44 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:

In addition to those, you can post a long message on FB and have it
automatically forwarded to Twitter where, after the start of the
original, there'll be a link back to the full message on FB.

Or you could just use FB instead of Twitter. ;-)

I think for something like this, a serious/technical question, I'd reckon
email has the most gravitas (well, 2nd to a letter on headed notepaper!).


I still possess some old Civil Service memorandum pads if you wish to avail
of those!

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
Richard Dixon wrote:

On Thursday, 4 February 2016 11:24:44 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:

In addition to those, you can post a long message on FB and have it
automatically forwarded to Twitter where, after the start of the
original, there'll be a link back to the full message on FB.

Or you could just use FB instead of Twitter. ;-)

I think for something like this, a serious/technical question, I'd
reckon email has the most gravitas (well, 2nd to a letter on headed
notepaper!).


Agreed. Just pointing out some options to getting around the 140
character limit. Reminds me that I heard a few days ago that Twitter
might also be introducing a change to the limit.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer]
http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/