"Trevor Harley" wrote in message
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I heard that Philip has been or is seriously unwell. His website hasn't
been updated for some time, and he doesn't answer emails. Does anyone know
any more?

Yes indeed, but it's not really suitable for a public forum.

On 21/02/2016 22:12, John Hall wrote:
In message ,
haaark writes
I know it's been many years since the DT and ST were real quality
broadsheets. I also know that the circulation of hard copy is in its
death spiral-five years maybe I'd guess before the anachronism of
sending hundreds of tons of newsprint round the country every day
comes to an end, anyone?-and the papers must be haemorrhaging cash.
Phillip Eden's successor at the ST is Peter Stanford,a lightweight
waffler who today came up with a classic.
Talking about the two ways of looking at winter's end, he said that
one way was the end of February, and the other was the astrological
way-i.e.March 21st.
Like almost everybody and his wife these days, he must have a degree.
Did he get it from the University of Glastonbury?


Yes, I spotted that too. One really would think that even someone with
an arts background (which I suspect he has) wouldn't mix up the words
"astronomy" and "astrology", and that even if he did the sub-editor
would ask him whether that was what he meant.

Must admit I had to re-read it to find out what the problem was. You
read what you expect to read i guess. So it's easily missed but then I'm
not a journalist writing articles for a national newspaper.....

--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 4:25:44 AM UTC-5, Norman Lynagh wrote:
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 01:13:04 -0800 (PST), Graham Easterling
wrote:

SNIP
The number that go to University now is so large that local councils cannot afford the fees and grants, unlike in my day. But it all seems a bit pointless and leaves a distinct impression of being a way of keeping young people away from unemployment, as least temporarily.

Tudor Hughes

I think this is the most important point. Back when I took my degree (1970-73) it was still a very small number (relative to today) that did. However, it meant you got a grant, not a loan. It was all essentially free. It meant you had no financial worries about going, you could go from any background. At that time my parents had little money and we lived on a Council Estate, in the far west of Cornwall. It didn't matter, if you wanted to go you could, and I ended up in NW London sharing with 2 lads from Barnsley.

Now, the policy of 'everyone who wants too should go & Britain will be great again' has made the whole thing unaffordable. So we have a system which works against people from a poorer background. In addition, many go to the nearest university so they can remain at home and saved money.

Getting away from home was too me the greatest experience. (Actually I left home before finishing my 'A' levels, but that's a different story.

Graham
Penzance

At the time I started my career in meteorology (the early 1960s) most Weather
Forecasters in this country were non-graduates.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

========

When I joined nearly a couple of decades later I would say that more than 50% were still non-graduates: many old-school forecasters from the navy, air force etc, from whom I learned a ton.

Stephen.

On Monday, 22 February 2016 17:55:14 UTC, Col wrote:
On 21/02/2016 22:12, John Hall wrote:

Yes, I spotted that too. One really would think that even someone with
an arts background (which I suspect he has) wouldn't mix up the words
"astronomy" and "astrology", and that even if he did the sub-editor
would ask him whether that was what he meant.

Must admit I had to re-read it to find out what the problem was. You
read what you expect to read i guess. So it's easily missed but then I'm
not a journalist writing articles for a national newspaper.....

Yes, I agree that it is easily missed. I did too. Some people even mix up geologists and archaeologists because they both scrabble around in the dirt :-)

On Monday, 22 February 2016 09:13:06 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
SNIP
The number that go to University now is so large that local councils cannot afford the fees and grants, unlike in my day. But it all seems a bit pointless and leaves a distinct impression of being a way of keeping young people away from unemployment, as least temporarily.

Tudor Hughes

I think this is the most important point. Back when I took my degree (1970-73) it was still a very small number (relative to today) that did. However, it meant you got a grant, not a loan. It was all essentially free. It meant you had no financial worries about going, you could go from any background. At that time my parents had little money and we lived on a Council Estate, in the far west of Cornwall. It didn't matter, if you wanted to go you could, and I ended up in NW London sharing with 2 lads from Barnsley.

Now, the policy of 'everyone who wants too should go & Britain will be great again' has made the whole thing unaffordable. So we have a system which works against people from a poorer background. In addition, many go to the nearest university so they can remain at home and saved money.

Getting away from home was too me the greatest experience. (Actually I left home before finishing my 'A' levels, but that's a different story.

Graham
Penzance

That sums up my experience uncannily accurately. Going to University was thought a bit special but I'd say that those of my classmates who did not go nevertheless got pretty good jobs anyway and the lack of this formal qualification made little long-term difference to their career.

Tudor Hughes.

On Monday, 22 February 2016 07:51:45 UTC, Freddie wrote:
dawlish Wrote in message:
You, as usual, have no idea, Hughes - but you thought you'd spout on it anyway. ???????? just hilarious.

So how is this response different to Tudor calling you a c*nt? It
is the same message - you just pad yours out with more words,
whereas Tudor cuts to the chase. I would take equal offence from
either response.

--
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Pontesbury
Shropshire
102m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
http://twitter.com/PontesburyWx for hourly reports


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He doesn't like me talking about education in any way, shape or form because he thinks he owns it, God help us. My Dad, who was a deputy headmaster, shall rise from the grave and beat the poo-poo out of him and then include him as a comically deranged character in one of the lighter of the Welsh plays wot he rote.

Tudor Hughes.

On Monday, 22 February 2016 20:43:53 UTC, Alastair wrote:

Some people even mix up geologists and archaeologists because they both scrabble around in the dirt :-)

In their cases though there is no real problem for anyone concerned:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...-y/zuc_Larwqbs

On Monday, 22 February 2016 13:21:54 UTC, wrote:
"Trevor Harley" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 4:40:30 PM UTC, haaark wrote:
I know it's been many years since the DT and ST were real quality
broadsheets. I also know that the circulation of hard copy is in its death
spiral-five years maybe I'd guess before the anachronism of sending
hundreds of tons of newsprint round the country every day comes to an end,
anyone?-and the papers must be haemorrhaging cash.
Phillip Eden's successor at the ST is Peter Stanford,a lightweight waffler
who today came up with a classic.


I heard that Philip has been or is seriously unwell. His website hasn't been
updated for some time, and he doesn't answer emails. Does anyone know any
more?
=================

He is very ill indeed. Cannot say more I'm afraid.

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)

Well you can give him my regards I hope:
All the best Mr Eden

"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 22 February 2016 07:51:45 UTC, Freddie wrote:
So how is this response different to Tudor calling you a c*nt? It
is the same message - you just pad yours out with more words,
whereas Tudor cuts to the chase. I would take equal offence from
either response.

He doesn't like me talking about education in any way, shape or form
because he thinks he owns it, God help us. My Dad, who was a deputy
headmaster, shall rise from the grave and beat the poo-poo out of him and
then include him as a comically deranged character in one of the lighter of
the Welsh plays wot he rote.
================

You really shud lern to spell hughes :-)

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On Monday, 22 February 2016 22:19:25 UTC, wrote:

You really shud lern to spell hughes :-)

Will
--

Spell it? I'm not even sure how to pronounce it, having been on the phone to a few call-centres recently. Ewjis, Uge, Hugh, Yugis. It's not their fault - we shouldn't be using them.

Tudor Hughes.