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On 23/02/2016 09:15, haaark wrote:
On Sunday, 21 February 2016 16:40:30 UTC, haaark wrote: I know it's been many years since the DT and ST were real quality broadsheets. I also know that the circulation of hard copy is in its death spiral-five years maybe I'd guess before the anachronism of sending hundreds of tons of newsprint round the country every day comes to an end, anyone?-and the papers must be haemorrhaging cash. Phillip Eden's successor at the ST is Peter Stanford,a lightweight waffler who today came up with a classic. Talking about the two ways of looking at winter's end, he said that one way was the end of February, and the other was the astrological way-i.e.March 21st. Like almost everybody and his wife these days, he must have a degree. Did he get it from the University of Glastonbury? What started off as a lament for the quality press, and continued with the usual gratuitous vulgar abuse from a resident troll, has ended up with sad news about PE. I've followed him for at least at least twenty years. Where else would you find out that in the 1850's-60's Sydney had its coldest ever winter's day? A southerly blast from the Antarctic with a max. temp. of 3C! Coming from any other source you wouldn't believe it. All the best PE. Get well soon. Unfortunately, all good things come to an end eventually. :-( |
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On 23/02/2016 10:18, John Hall wrote:
In message , haaark writes What started off as a lament for the quality press, and continued with the usual gratuitous vulgar abuse from a resident troll, has ended up with sad news about PE. I've followed him for at least at least twenty years. Where else would you find out that in the 1850's-60's Sydney had its coldest ever winter's day? A southerly blast from the Antarctic with a max. temp. of 3C! Coming from any other source you wouldn't believe it. All the best PE. Get well soon. From me too. And from me. I've always enoyed Philip's thoughtful, informative and thoroughly well presented articles in print and broadcast. A few years ago I spent a very useful day at his place on top of Dunstable Downs researching rainfall data from the library. He was sensible enough to just let me get on with my research otherwise I would have been bombarding him with questions of the 'and do you remember' variety? -- George in Swanston, Edinburgh, 580'asl www.swanstonweather.co.uk www.eppingweather.co.uk www.winter1947.co.uk |
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:06:33 -0000, "Eskimo Will"
wrote: "Anne B" wrote in message ... All the best PE. Get well soon. And from me. I hope he does, but I fear the worst :-( Will I've known Philip as a work colleague and friend for over 40 years. I last saw him a couple of years ago and last had proper contact with him about 9 months ago. It is very sad, but he has completely withdrawn from all of his meteorological activities and, as far as I know, from most other aspects of his life. Another old colleague and I have both tried to arrange to visit him in recent months but he was not receptive to that idea. I regret that we have probably heard the last from him. I sincerely hope he proves me wrong. -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. http://peakdistrictweather.org |
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 10:53:29 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:
On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 10:34:53 AM UTC, Richard Dixon wrote: On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 10:22:55 UTC, John Hall wrote: What started off as a lament for the quality press, and continued with the usual gratuitous vulgar abuse from a resident troll, has ended up with sad news about PE. I've followed him for at least at least twenty years. Where else would you find out that in the 1850's-60's Sydney had its coldest ever winter's day? A southerly blast from the Antarctic with a max. temp. of 3C! Coming from any other source you wouldn't believe it. All the best PE. Get well soon. From me too. And me. Had a lot of correspondence with PE in trying to get the "Historic storms" Lamb book accepted by publishing houses for an update about 3-4 years ago as it's such a useful reference book. Sadly no-one "bit" but Philip's enthusiasm shone through. Best wishes, Philip. Richard And from me. An inspiration when I first joined this group and a lovely sense of humour as well. All the best for a swift and full recovery. I'd like to wish him the best also. JC |
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On Monday, 22 February 2016 21:12:53 UTC, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Monday, 22 February 2016 09:13:06 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote: SNIP The number that go to University now is so large that local councils cannot afford the fees and grants, unlike in my day. But it all seems a bit pointless and leaves a distinct impression of being a way of keeping young people away from unemployment, as least temporarily. Tudor Hughes I think this is the most important point. Back when I took my degree (1970-73) it was still a very small number (relative to today) that did. However, it meant you got a grant, not a loan. It was all essentially free. It meant you had no financial worries about going, you could go from any background. At that time my parents had little money and we lived on a Council Estate, in the far west of Cornwall. It didn't matter, if you wanted to go you could, and I ended up in NW London sharing with 2 lads from Barnsley. Now, the policy of 'everyone who wants too should go & Britain will be great again' has made the whole thing unaffordable. So we have a system which works against people from a poorer background. In addition, many go to the nearest university so they can remain at home and saved money. Getting away from home was too me the greatest experience. (Actually I left home before finishing my 'A' levels, but that's a different story. Graham Penzance That sums up my experience uncannily accurately. Going to University was thought a bit special but I'd say that those of my classmates who did not go nevertheless got pretty good jobs anyway and the lack of this formal qualification made little long-term difference to their career. Tudor Hughes. I don't want to demean my son and daughters degrees but they're both carrying a debt and the uni's can't wait to collect the money. |
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 10:34:53 UTC, Richard Dixon wrote:
On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 10:22:55 UTC, John Hall wrote: What started off as a lament for the quality press, and continued with the usual gratuitous vulgar abuse from a resident troll, has ended up with sad news about PE. I've followed him for at least at least twenty years. Where else would you find out that in the 1850's-60's Sydney had its coldest ever winter's day? A southerly blast from the Antarctic with a max. temp. of 3C! Coming from any other source you wouldn't believe it. All the best PE. Get well soon. From me too. And me. Had a lot of correspondence with PE in trying to get the "Historic storms" Lamb book accepted by publishing houses for an update about 3-4 years ago as it's such a useful reference book. Sadly no-one "bit" but Philip's enthusiasm shone through. Best wishes, Philip. Have you tried an online publisher such as Smashwords? https://www.smashwords.com/ Fiction » Erotica Sub-categories: BDSM | Contemporary | General | Menage/Multiple Partners | Gay Erotica | Women's Erotica | Couples Erotica | Paranormal | Men's Erotica | Romance | Lesbian Erotica | Erotica Anthologies | All sub-categories Butterfly Effect by Tudor Hughes Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 90,610. Language: English. Published: February 22, 2016. Categories: Fiction » Romance » Suspense, Fiction » Erotica » Suspense/Mystery |
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 11:10:31 UTC, Jumper wrote:
On 23/02/2016 01:55, Tudor Hughes wrote: On Monday, 22 February 2016 22:19:25 UTC, wrote: You really shud lern to spell hughes :-) Will -- Spell it? I'm not even sure how to pronounce it, having been on the phone to a few call-centres recently. Ewjis, Uge, Hugh, Yugis. It's not their fault - we shouldn't be using them. Tudor Hughes. It's all relative, don't be so anglo-centric. Coming from you, that's a bit rich, I'd say. Tudor Hughes. |
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On Monday, 22 February 2016 11:51:06 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:25:59 +0000 Norman Lynagh wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 01:13:04 -0800 (PST), Graham Easterling wrote: SNIP The number that go to University now is so large that local councils cannot afford the fees and grants, unlike in my day. But it all seems a bit pointless and leaves a distinct impression of being a way of keeping young people away from unemployment, as least temporarily. Tudor Hughes I think this is the most important point. Back when I took my degree (1970-73) it was still a very small number (relative to today) that did. However, it meant you got a grant, not a loan. It was all essentially free. It meant you had no financial worries about going, you could go from any background. At that time my parents had little money and we lived on a Council Estate, in the far west of Cornwall. It didn't matter, if you wanted to go you could, and I ended up in NW London sharing with 2 lads from Barnsley. Now, the policy of 'everyone who wants too should go & Britain will be great again' has made the whole thing unaffordable. So we have a system which works against people from a poorer background. In addition, many go to the nearest university so they can remain at home and saved money. Getting away from home was too me the greatest experience. (Actually I left home before finishing my 'A' levels, but that's a different story. At the time I started my career in meteorology (the early 1960s) most Weather Forecasters in this country were non-graduates. Yes, I started work at the Met Office at 18 instead of going to uni. My father was an OAP and had been unable to work for a couple of years through injury so I thought it was time I paid my way. As it was, I think the money I earned from the Met Office wouldn't have been an awful lot more than I would have got from a grant. Late in '62, I went for an interview for AXO but was told when I walked in that they were only taking graduates. In '64 I applied for a bursary to study for a degree and was turned down because I wasn't an AXO. I got promoted later that year. I think the percentage of people being accepted to go to uni now is about three times as high as those who passed the 11-plus when I took it. Overall, I think that's good but there really are some right dipsticks getting degrees. Still, that's better than what it was like in my day when some clever people were destined for menial factory jobs for the rest of their life. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer] http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/ I'm surprised that you were told they were only taking graduates for AXO's. I can distinctly remember being aware that the entry qualification for AXO's was a pass degree *or* decent A levels and that therefore the fact that I failed my (pass) degree didn't immediately matter. The interview was in Nov or Dec 1963. As far as I can remember none or very few of the XO's and SXO's in Bracknell had degrees. They were quite highly regarded and had a practical background. Tudor Hughes. |
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On Sunday, 21 February 2016 22:13:37 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In message , haaark writes I know it's been many years since the DT and ST were real quality broadsheets. I also know that the circulation of hard copy is in its death spiral-five years maybe I'd guess before the anachronism of sending hundreds of tons of newsprint round the country every day comes to an end, anyone?-and the papers must be haemorrhaging cash. Phillip Eden's successor at the ST is Peter Stanford,a lightweight waffler who today came up with a classic. Talking about the two ways of looking at winter's end, he said that one way was the end of February, and the other was the astrological way-i.e.March 21st. Like almost everybody and his wife these days, he must have a degree. Did he get it from the University of Glastonbury? Yes, I spotted that too. One really would think that even someone with an arts background (which I suspect he has) wouldn't mix up the words "astronomy" and "astrology", and that even if he did the sub-editor would ask him whether that was what he meant. -- John Hall "Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones Jeremy Paxman must have an arts degree but it hasn't stopped him from mispronouncing "meteorology" as "metreology". Meretricious - get a grip, Paxo. Tudor Hughes. |
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:26:32 -0800 (PST)
Tudor Hughes wrote: On Monday, 22 February 2016 11:51:06 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:25:59 +0000 Norman Lynagh wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 01:13:04 -0800 (PST), Graham Easterling wrote: SNIP The number that go to University now is so large that local councils cannot afford the fees and grants, unlike in my day. But it all seems a bit pointless and leaves a distinct impression of being a way of keeping young people away from unemployment, as least temporarily. Tudor Hughes I think this is the most important point. Back when I took my degree (1970-73) it was still a very small number (relative to today) that did. However, it meant you got a grant, not a loan. It was all essentially free. It meant you had no financial worries about going, you could go from any background. At that time my parents had little money and we lived on a Council Estate, in the far west of Cornwall. It didn't matter, if you wanted to go you could, and I ended up in NW London sharing with 2 lads from Barnsley. Now, the policy of 'everyone who wants too should go & Britain will be great again' has made the whole thing unaffordable. So we have a system which works against people from a poorer background. In addition, many go to the nearest university so they can remain at home and saved money. Getting away from home was too me the greatest experience. (Actually I left home before finishing my 'A' levels, but that's a different story. At the time I started my career in meteorology (the early 1960s) most Weather Forecasters in this country were non-graduates. Yes, I started work at the Met Office at 18 instead of going to uni. My father was an OAP and had been unable to work for a couple of years through injury so I thought it was time I paid my way. As it was, I think the money I earned from the Met Office wouldn't have been an awful lot more than I would have got from a grant. Late in '62, I went for an interview for AXO but was told when I walked in that they were only taking graduates. In '64 I applied for a bursary to study for a degree and was turned down because I wasn't an AXO. I got promoted later that year. I think the percentage of people being accepted to go to uni now is about three times as high as those who passed the 11-plus when I took it. Overall, I think that's good but there really are some right dipsticks getting degrees. Still, that's better than what it was like in my day when some clever people were destined for menial factory jobs for the rest of their life. I'm surprised that you were told they were only taking graduates for AXO's. I can distinctly remember being aware that the entry qualification for AXO's was a pass degree *or* decent A levels and that therefore the fact that I failed my (pass) degree didn't immediately matter. The interview was in Nov or Dec 1963. As far as I can remember none or very few of the XO's and SXO's in Bracknell had degrees. They were quite highly regarded and had a practical background. My interview was in November 1962. It put a bit of a dampener on proceedings as you can imagine. I think if I'd been a little older and more confident, I might have got up, thanked them for wasting my time, and walked out. The interviewer seemed genuinely surprised that I'd bothered to turn up with my measly 3 A-levels. Perhaps this was one of these things that often happened in the Met Office where they got too many AXOs one year so cut down the next. I'm pretty sure that I got sent onto the IFC as a form of short-term management in order to free-up my Bracknell post for one of many staff who'd lost their positions when a major Met Office closed. Shunting me onto the IFC gave Met O 10 a chance to kick the problem down the road for another few months. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer] http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/ |
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