The latest sea surface temperature [SST] anomalies for mid-March show that the central Atlantic [50-60N, 20-30W] has cooled a little more in the last few months. In fact most of the Northeast Atlantic and North Sea has progressively cooled over the last few months and much of it is now below average, with individual cold anomalies showing up across the Outer Isles and south of the Faroes. The cold heart of the Atlantic now has a sizeable area of ocean that has anomalies of less than -2.5°C. What this means for the coming summer might be more zonal cyclonic westerly conditions, rather than the blocked anticyclonic type that we are currently experiencing in western Europe.

https://xmetman.wordpress.com/2016/0...a-little-more/

On 15/03/2016 12:23, xmetman wrote:
The latest sea surface temperature [SST] anomalies for mid-March show that the central Atlantic [50-60N, 20-30W] has cooled a little more in the last few months. In fact most of the Northeast Atlantic and North Sea has progressively cooled over the last few months and much of it is now below average, with individual cold anomalies showing up across the Outer Isles and south of the Faroes. The cold heart of the Atlantic now has a sizeable area of ocean that has anomalies of less than -2.5°C. What this means for the coming summer might be more zonal cyclonic westerly conditions, rather than the blocked anticyclonic type that we are currently experiencing in western Europe.

https://xmetman.wordpress.com/2016/0...a-little-more/

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Only one thing to say to that - typical! After a ridiculously mild
winter we now probably get a ridiculously cool Summer!

On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 05:23:35 -0700 (PDT), xmetman
wrote:

The latest sea surface temperature [SST] anomalies for mid-March show that the central Atlantic [50-60N, 20-30W] has cooled a little more in the last few months. In fact most of the Northeast Atlantic and North Sea has progressively cooled over the last few months and much of it is now below average, with individual cold anomalies showing up across the Outer Isles and south of the Faroes. The cold heart of the Atlantic now has a sizeable area of ocean that has anomalies of less than -2.5°C. What this means for the coming summer might be more zonal cyclonic westerly conditions, rather than the blocked anticyclonic type that we are currently experiencing in western Europe.

https://xmetman.wordpress.com/2016/0...a-little-more/


The global SST are, indeed, quite intriguing at present. In both hemispheres the
waters in middle and high latitudes have negative SST anomalies for the most
part whereas tropical and sub-tropical waters are mostly showing positive SST
anomalies. The SST gradient between the equator and, say, 60 N/S is therefore
currently considerably stronger than average in both hemispheres. The pattern
shows up clearly at

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/an....3.14.2016.gif

What it means for the global climate I wouldn't like to guess.

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http://peakdistrictweather.org

On Tuesday, 15 March 2016 12:35:37 UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 05:23:35 -0700 (PDT), xmetman
wrote:

The latest sea surface temperature [SST] anomalies for mid-March show that the central Atlantic [50-60N, 20-30W] has cooled a little more in the last few months. In fact most of the Northeast Atlantic and North Sea has progressively cooled over the last few months and much of it is now below average, with individual cold anomalies showing up across the Outer Isles and south of the Faroes. The cold heart of the Atlantic now has a sizeable area of ocean that has anomalies of less than -2.5°C. What this means for the coming summer might be more zonal cyclonic westerly conditions, rather than the blocked anticyclonic type that we are currently experiencing in western Europe.

https://xmetman.wordpress.com/2016/0...a-little-more/


The global SST are, indeed, quite intriguing at present. In both hemispheres the
waters in middle and high latitudes have negative SST anomalies for the most
part whereas tropical and sub-tropical waters are mostly showing positive SST
anomalies. The SST gradient between the equator and, say, 60 N/S is therefore
currently considerably stronger than average in both hemispheres. The pattern
shows up clearly at

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/an....3.14.2016.gif

What it means for the global climate I wouldn't like to guess.

--
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Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

Norman

Yes, I can see what you mean. I don't know what the split is between the warm/cold anomalies of the oceans, but it looks around 60/40, although the projection is misleading and it' probably higher.

Bruce.

Even when the Northern hemisphere is far warmer than at any time in the last 100+ years. sigh

We are due a record-breaking summer. I for one am going to not increase my carbon footprint and stay home, hoping for the 1975/6 summers....again!

On Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:38:31 UTC, Paul Garvey wrote:
Even when the Northern hemisphere is far warmer than at any time in the last 100+ years. sigh

We are due a record-breaking summer. I for one am going to not increase my carbon footprint and stay home, hoping for the 1975/6 summers....again!

You fly several times a year you lying hypocritical *******

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 12:35:37 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 05:23:35 -0700 (PDT), xmetman
wrote:

The latest sea surface temperature [SST] anomalies for mid-March show that the central Atlantic [50-60N, 20-30W] has cooled a little more in the last few months. In fact most of the Northeast Atlantic and North Sea has progressively cooled over the last few months and much of it is now below average, with individual cold anomalies showing up across the Outer Isles and south of the Faroes. The cold heart of the Atlantic now has a sizeable area of ocean that has anomalies of less than -2.5°C. What this means for the coming summer might be more zonal cyclonic westerly conditions, rather than the blocked anticyclonic type that we are currently experiencing in western Europe.

https://xmetman.wordpress.com/2016/0...a-little-more/


The global SST are, indeed, quite intriguing at present. In both hemispheres the
waters in middle and high latitudes have negative SST anomalies for the most
part whereas tropical and sub-tropical waters are mostly showing positive SST
anomalies. The SST gradient between the equator and, say, 60 N/S is therefore
currently considerably stronger than average in both hemispheres. The pattern
shows up clearly at

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/an....3.14.2016.gif

What it means for the global climate I wouldn't like to guess.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

I'm rather intrigued as to why SST anomaly charts vary so much.
This chart, from NOAA is also the 14th March. http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/rtg_l...maly_oper0.png The pattern is the same, but the mean anomaly is more positive.

The Atlantic cold pool was a persistent feature throughout 2015, yet looking at global temperature anomalies for 2015 https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/servi...501-201512.gif only the area directly over the cold pool had a mean temperature below normal. Despite it being a zonal year, when you would perhaps expect it's influence to spread eastwards, the UK still managed above normal temperatures overall. The cold pool was even colder at this time last year. (I think Stephen may have some data on this?).

As for map projections, at least the Annual 2015 projection takes a small step towards equal area. Why they insist on using the projection they do for SSTs, when anywhere north of 50 degrees is massively exagerated, is beyond me. The world is full of people who haven't the remotest idea of the real size & shape of Greenland. Perhaps the projection is sponsored by the Icelandic government, or perhaps it's compensation for the MetO projection of the UK and the shrunken Scotland!

Graham
Penzance

On Tuesday, 15 March 2016 12:35:37 UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 05:23:35 -0700 (PDT), xmetman
wrote:

The latest sea surface temperature [SST] anomalies for mid-March show that the central Atlantic [50-60N, 20-30W] has cooled a little more in the last few months. In fact most of the Northeast Atlantic and North Sea has progressively cooled over the last few months and much of it is now below average, with individual cold anomalies showing up across the Outer Isles and south of the Faroes. The cold heart of the Atlantic now has a sizeable area of ocean that has anomalies of less than -2.5°C. What this means for the coming summer might be more zonal cyclonic westerly conditions, rather than the blocked anticyclonic type that we are currently experiencing in western Europe.

https://xmetman.wordpress.com/2016/0...a-little-more/


The global SST are, indeed, quite intriguing at present.
What it means for the global climate I wouldn't like to guess.

I would. SST means Sudden Stoopid Thermironics.

How deep is the surface that the flowerpotmen use for making stultifyingly stupid theories.

What the morons are observing and god appears to have forbidden them seeing, is the current flow. And, as if to slap their faces, he has supplied an agent to proclaim to them the truth.

One who knows exactly how to deal with fools! Or at least; doesn't give a damn about them -so long as he continues to be right. At the top of this page is a graphic depicting the direction of control for the flow:
http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/eq/latest/index_EN?list=w

Discuss this amongst yopurselves if you have the ability. Just dawlish it through if you can't. You can all remain dumb as far as his agency is concerned.

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or perhaps it's compensation for the MetO projection of the UK and the shrunken Scotland!
That's a BBC projection, Graham, not a MetO one.


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On Tuesday, 15 March 2016 21:40:09 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 12:35:37 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 05:23:35 -0700 (PDT), xmetman
wrote:

The latest sea surface temperature [SST] anomalies for mid-March show that the central Atlantic [50-60N, 20-30W] has cooled a little more in the last few months. In fact most of the Northeast Atlantic and North Sea has progressively cooled over the last few months and much of it is now below average, with individual cold anomalies showing up across the Outer Isles and south of the Faroes. The cold heart of the Atlantic now has a sizeable area of ocean that has anomalies of less than -2.5°C. What this means for the coming summer might be more zonal cyclonic westerly conditions, rather than the blocked anticyclonic type that we are currently experiencing in western Europe.

https://xmetman.wordpress.com/2016/0...a-little-more/


The global SST are, indeed, quite intriguing at present. In both hemispheres the
waters in middle and high latitudes have negative SST anomalies for the most
part whereas tropical and sub-tropical waters are mostly showing positive SST
anomalies. The SST gradient between the equator and, say, 60 N/S is therefore
currently considerably stronger than average in both hemispheres. The pattern
shows up clearly at

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/an...3.14.2016..gif

What it means for the global climate I wouldn't like to guess.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

I'm rather intrigued as to why SST anomaly charts vary so much.
This chart, from NOAA is also the 14th March. http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/rtg_l...maly_oper0.png The pattern is the same, but the mean anomaly is more positive.

The Atlantic cold pool was a persistent feature throughout 2015, yet looking at global temperature anomalies for 2015 https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/servi...501-201512.gif only the area directly over the cold pool had a mean temperature below normal. Despite it being a zonal year, when you would perhaps expect it's influence to spread eastwards, the UK still managed above normal temperatures overall. The cold pool was even colder at this time last year. (I think Stephen may have some data on this?).

As for map projections, at least the Annual 2015 projection takes a small step towards equal area. Why they insist on using the projection they do for SSTs, when anywhere north of 50 degrees is massively exagerated, is beyond me. The world is full of people who haven't the remotest idea of the real size & shape of Greenland. Perhaps the projection is sponsored by the Icelandic government, or perhaps it's compensation for the MetO projection of the UK and the shrunken Scotland!

Graham
Penzance

Graham

I like the one that I use in my blog from NCOF with data that comes from the Met Office and must be derived from satellites. The underlying actual SST values (which are available) are fairly smooth, the very detailed and almost fractal look of the anomaly chart I show looks far too precise but of course is that way because of the underlying average they use to generate anomalies must be very very detailed. I think they should use a much smoother set of long-term averages and then the end result would look smoother and a lot less detailed as it is at the moment.

Bruce.