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May 4th 16, 09:47 PM
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Weird and rubbish temperature forecast
Here we go again.
Forecast max temperature underestimated again for Plymouth Mt Batten in these conditions. Forecast sunny all day. Correct. Forecast max temperature 13°C. Wrong. Actual max temperature 15.2°C. Max temperature in my garden Stevenson screen 17.0°C. Can't understand why UKMO model always messes up in these conditions. Surely having forecast cloudless conditions, it is comparatively easy to forecast max temperature? Len Wembury, SW Devon |
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May 4th 16, 09:56 PM
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Weird and rubbish temperature forecast
"Len Wood" wrote in message ... Here we go again. Forecast max temperature underestimated again for Plymouth Mt Batten in these conditions. Forecast sunny all day. Correct. Forecast max temperature 13°C. Wrong. Actual max temperature 15.2°C. Max temperature in my garden Stevenson screen 17.0°C. Can't understand why UKMO model always messes up in these conditions. Surely having forecast cloudless conditions, it is comparatively easy to forecast max temperature? Len Wembury, SW Devon ============== Haytor was wrong too. Forecast max. 12C actual max. 15C. Ernie Gold is moving in his grave right now! Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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May 5th 16, 02:48 AM
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On Wed, 4 May 2016 21:56:17 +0100, "Eskimo Will"
wrote: "Len Wood" wrote in message ... Here we go again. Forecast max temperature underestimated again for Plymouth Mt Batten in these conditions. Forecast sunny all day. Correct. Forecast max temperature 13°C. Wrong. Actual max temperature 15.2°C. Max temperature in my garden Stevenson screen 17.0°C. Can't understand why UKMO model always messes up in these conditions. Surely having forecast cloudless conditions, it is comparatively easy to forecast max temperature? Haytor was wrong too. Forecast max. 12C actual max. 15C. Ernie Gold is moving in his grave right now! It's just the same over here in Fareham, they or their models seem unable to grasp that although Southampton Water and the Wallington River (into Fareham) are tidal, we are not on the beach! So yet another day was forecast at least 2 deg C too low - par for the course over the last week on every day when we get at least sunny intervals. I just adjust upwards these days, it's still irritating though. -- Dave Fareham (W) |
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May 5th 16, 08:56 AM
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"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 May 2016 21:56:17 +0100, "Eskimo Will" wrote: "Len Wood" wrote in message ... Here we go again. Forecast max temperature underestimated again for Plymouth Mt Batten in these conditions. Forecast sunny all day. Correct. Forecast max temperature 13°C. Wrong. Actual max temperature 15.2°C. Max temperature in my garden Stevenson screen 17.0°C. Can't understand why UKMO model always messes up in these conditions. Surely having forecast cloudless conditions, it is comparatively easy to forecast max temperature? Haytor was wrong too. Forecast max. 12C actual max. 15C. Ernie Gold is moving in his grave right now! It's just the same over here in Fareham, they or their models seem unable to grasp that although Southampton Water and the Wallington River (into Fareham) are tidal, we are not on the beach! So yet another day was forecast at least 2 deg C too low - par for the course over the last week on every day when we get at least sunny intervals. I just adjust upwards these days, it's still irritating though. They can do better that and things may improve once they get their arse in gear and start using very high res. models in the public service site forecasts. Simon and Bruce in the MetO are you reading this?!!! :-) I suspect not actually as the newsfeed to usw was removed some time ago, concentrating more now on ****ter, but that is moderated and criticism is not allowed. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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May 5th 16, 09:13 AM
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On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:48:56 AM UTC+1, Dave Ludlow wrote:
On Wed, 4 May 2016 21:56:17 +0100, "Eskimo Will" wrote: "Len Wood" wrote in message ... Here we go again. Forecast max temperature underestimated again for Plymouth Mt Batten in these conditions. Forecast sunny all day. Correct. Forecast max temperature 13°C. Wrong. Actual max temperature 15.2°C. Max temperature in my garden Stevenson screen 17.0°C. Can't understand why UKMO model always messes up in these conditions. Surely having forecast cloudless conditions, it is comparatively easy to forecast max temperature? Haytor was wrong too. Forecast max. 12C actual max. 15C. Ernie Gold is moving in his grave right now! It's just the same over here in Fareham, they or their models seem unable to grasp that although Southampton Water and the Wallington River (into Fareham) are tidal, we are not on the beach! So yet another day was forecast at least 2 deg C too low - par for the course over the last week on every day when we get at least sunny intervals. I just adjust upwards these days, it's still irritating though. -- Dave Fareham (W) A couple of years ago I kept records of actual maximum in May, and forecast maximum (2 days ahead). The average discrepancy was 3C! It's always worst in Spring, but strangely Whether the wind was on or offshore made little difference. All this fades into insignificance compared to David Braine's surf forecasts, I mean where does he get this stuff from!!?? A big swell has been forecast for the north coast for days, and it was very good yesterday. Yesterday he persisted with the c**p, for today he said there'd be "1-2ft on the north coast - little for the surfers". The fact that he pointed out the deepish depression over the Atlantic, prior to saying there'd be virtually no surf, suggests he hadn't put his brain into gear. Looks like a superb wave today, 6-9' & clean, about as good as it gets as it's combined with an offshore wind. http://magicseaweed.com/Sennen-Surf-Report/4/ In fact even better than yesterday. Currently 10' at Sevenstones. Still a good wave for Friday, before it tails off. You can't beat Magic Seaweed, essentially GFS with human input (local knowledge) & common sense applied. Graham Penzance |
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May 5th 16, 09:38 AM
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"Graham Easterling" wrote in message ... On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:48:56 AM UTC+1, Dave Ludlow wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2016 21:56:17 +0100, "Eskimo Will" wrote: "Len Wood" wrote in message ... Here we go again. Forecast max temperature underestimated again for Plymouth Mt Batten in these conditions. Forecast sunny all day. Correct. Forecast max temperature 13°C. Wrong. Actual max temperature 15.2°C. Max temperature in my garden Stevenson screen 17.0°C. Can't understand why UKMO model always messes up in these conditions. Surely having forecast cloudless conditions, it is comparatively easy to forecast max temperature? Haytor was wrong too. Forecast max. 12C actual max. 15C. Ernie Gold is moving in his grave right now! It's just the same over here in Fareham, they or their models seem unable to grasp that although Southampton Water and the Wallington River (into Fareham) are tidal, we are not on the beach! So yet another day was forecast at least 2 deg C too low - par for the course over the last week on every day when we get at least sunny intervals. I just adjust upwards these days, it's still irritating though. -- Dave Fareham (W) A couple of years ago I kept records of actual maximum in May, and forecast maximum (2 days ahead). The average discrepancy was 3C! It's always worst in Spring, but strangely Whether the wind was on or offshore made little difference. All this fades into insignificance compared to David Braine's surf forecasts, I mean where does he get this stuff from!!?? A big swell has been forecast for the north coast for days, and it was very good yesterday. Yesterday he persisted with the c**p, for today he said there'd be "1-2ft on the north coast - little for the surfers". The fact that he pointed out the deepish depression over the Atlantic, prior to saying there'd be virtually no surf, suggests he hadn't put his brain into gear. Looks like a superb wave today, 6-9' & clean, about as good as it gets as it's combined with an offshore wind. http://magicseaweed.com/Sennen-Surf-Report/4/ In fact even better than yesterday. Currently 10' at Sevenstones. Still a good wave for Friday, before it tails off. You can't beat Magic Seaweed, essentially GFS with human input (local knowledge) & common sense applied. =================== LOL you cannot make it up. I suspect our Mr Braine takes the wind speed and direction and ignores the sea state LOL. BRING BACK CRAIG RICH! He knew his surf from his turf :-) Little surf here on Haytor quarry pond today (no funneling), maybe up to a centimetre. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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May 5th 16, 03:31 PM
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On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 9:39:20 AM UTC+1, wrote:
"Graham Easterling" wrote in message ... On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:48:56 AM UTC+1, Dave Ludlow wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2016 21:56:17 +0100, "Eskimo Will" wrote: "Len Wood" wrote in message ... Here we go again. Forecast max temperature underestimated again for Plymouth Mt Batten in these conditions. Forecast sunny all day. Correct. Forecast max temperature 13°C. Wrong. Actual max temperature 15.2°C. Max temperature in my garden Stevenson screen 17.0°C. Can't understand why UKMO model always messes up in these conditions. Surely having forecast cloudless conditions, it is comparatively easy to forecast max temperature? Haytor was wrong too. Forecast max. 12C actual max. 15C. Ernie Gold is moving in his grave right now! It's just the same over here in Fareham, they or their models seem unable to grasp that although Southampton Water and the Wallington River (into Fareham) are tidal, we are not on the beach! So yet another day was forecast at least 2 deg C too low - par for the course over the last week on every day when we get at least sunny intervals. I just adjust upwards these days, it's still irritating though. -- Dave Fareham (W) A couple of years ago I kept records of actual maximum in May, and forecast maximum (2 days ahead). The average discrepancy was 3C! It's always worst in Spring, but strangely Whether the wind was on or offshore made little difference. All this fades into insignificance compared to David Braine's surf forecasts, I mean where does he get this stuff from!!?? A big swell has been forecast for the north coast for days, and it was very good yesterday. Yesterday he persisted with the c**p, for today he said there'd be "1-2ft on the north coast - little for the surfers". The fact that he pointed out the deepish depression over the Atlantic, prior to saying there'd be virtually no surf, suggests he hadn't put his brain into gear. Looks like a superb wave today, 6-9' & clean, about as good as it gets as it's combined with an offshore wind. http://magicseaweed.com/Sennen-Surf-Report/4/ In fact even better than yesterday. Currently 10' at Sevenstones. Still a good wave for Friday, before it tails off. You can't beat Magic Seaweed, essentially GFS with human input (local knowledge) & common sense applied. =================== LOL you cannot make it up. I suspect our Mr Braine takes the wind speed and direction and ignores the sea state LOL. BRING BACK CRAIG RICH! He knew his surf from his turf :-) Little surf here on Haytor quarry pond today (no funneling), maybe up to a centimetre. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- Plenty of surfers seem to have ignored DB - middle pic http://www.sennen-cove.com/index.htm Long period as well as big. Graham Penzance |
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