On 03/07/2016 18:14, saracene wrote:
The behaviour of the lefty losing side over the Brexit business has been a real eye opener. I used to assume they must have some defensible arguments, even though I disagreed with them. But it seems they can’t argue. They exist in bubble filled with like minded people and are furiously indignant that anyone would disagree. Clearly they believe in doctrine not argument. The contempt typically expressed for the leavers’ case is absurd. They cannot even acknowledge that there are intelligent and well informed people who have put up a case that Britain would be much better off outside the EU, a case that has often been presented in parts of the mainstream media. It is pathetic, and I am losing what respect I had for the Guardianistas.



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On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 20:00:32 +0100, Jumper wrote:

On 03/07/2016 18:14, saracene wrote:
The behaviour of the lefty losing side over the Brexit business has been a real eye opener. I used to assume they must have some defensible arguments, even though I disagreed with them. But it seems they can’t argue. They exist in bubble filled with like minded people and are furiously indignant that anyone would disagree. Clearly they believe in doctrine not argument. The contempt typically expressed for the leavers’ case is absurd. They cannot even acknowledge that there are intelligent and well informed people who have put up a case that Britain would be much better off outside the EU, a case that has often been presented in parts of the mainstream media. It is pathetic, and I am losing what respect I had for the Guardianistas.

that's called 'realism'!



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On Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:00:50 UTC+1, Jumper wrote:
On 03/07/2016 18:14, saracene wrote:
The behaviour of the lefty losing side over the Brexit business has been a real eye opener. I used to assume they must have some defensible arguments, even though I disagreed with them. But it seems they can’t argue. They exist in bubble filled with like minded people and are furiously indignant that anyone would disagree. Clearly they believe in doctrine not argument. The contempt typically expressed for the leavers’ case is absurd. They cannot even acknowledge that there are intelligent and well informed people who have put up a case that Britain would be much better off outside the EU, a case that has often been presented in parts of the mainstream media. It is pathetic, and I am losing what respect I had for the Guardianistas.



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The left isn't in opposition to the establishment anymore , it is the establishment. The actual aims of the left as well have changed over a hundred years. When people had much harder lives it was about food, work, a roof over your head and so on. No its about the world treating you with entitlement and the more odd and ridiculous the minority group , the more the left rally round them. There's a video been put up on youtube this afternoon

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-a-garden-par/

by Lily Allen (you know her dad Keith is another lefty loon) Lily Allen is at a very posh garden party under a huge marquee and she spots Rupert Murdoch and Liam Fox eating at another table . However our Lily is a faux lefty , we know that because when she had her frst his 'Smile' which basically sold to kids, being edgy and knowing it would raise sales she sings the third line

"you were ****ing the girl next door"

http://www.metrolyrics.com/smile-lyrics-lily-allen.html

So Lily sings lines like that to kids and then calls Murdoch and Fox ******s. There is second video in the article where Murdoch is walking back to the house with Jerry Hall and Lily mocks his age by saying it nappy change time.

Never have so many been totally brainwashed. I had to laugh on the day of the Brexit vote a labour party bloke knocked at my door asking how I was going to vote. I told him that although the brexit argument wasn't strictly left or right it however the Labour and general left party line.. I told him how when I was in the Socialst Labour League the hard left back in the early seventies was against the EEC and now here they are for it. He was an affable enough young chap but when I raised the issue of climate change he said that as a scientist it was irrefutable but agreed with GM crops so fair do's . When I asked what was he a scientist in he said 'psychology' oh dear I thought. I said imo that the young left kids gravitated to 'psychology' in the post war years right up until the nougthties when climate change took over. I also posed to him that the left distorted all human history and ignored the fact that before capitalism human existence was the pits. I mentioned electricity and how we had none until Nicola Tesla designed the polyphase induction generator which harnessed the energy available at Niagra falls.

"Hmm he said tesla, do you mean the people making the electric cars"

I said no Nikola Tesla the man who harnessed energy and created ac electricity that powered the world have you never heard of him? He embarrassingly scratched his head and said no, made his excuse and left.

FFS he made the claim that he was a scientist and that why he knew AGW was real, dangerous and had to be dealt with. It turn out he is a psychologist and has never heard of the man who turbo charged humanity back at the turn of the twentieth century. My point being the new left attitude to history is totally distorted and doesn't want to recognise facts that don't fit their skewed outlook.

No doubt Lily Allen is well inebriated by now proud of her left wing stance by insulting Rupert Murdoch under her breath and mocking his age. The fact she too was a guest at such an exclusive garden party for the rich and famous seems to have bypassed her hypocrite detector.

On Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:40:48 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:00:50 UTC+1, Jumper wrote:
On 03/07/2016 18:14, saracene wrote:
The behaviour of the lefty losing side over the Brexit business has been a real eye opener. I used to assume they must have some defensible arguments, even though I disagreed with them. But it seems they can’t argue. They exist in bubble filled with like minded people and are furiously indignant that anyone would disagree. Clearly they believe in doctrine not argument. The contempt typically expressed for the leavers’ case is absurd. They cannot even acknowledge that there are intelligent and well informed people who have put up a case that Britain would be much better off outside the EU, a case that has often been presented in parts of the mainstream media. It is pathetic, and I am losing what respect I had for the Guardianistas.



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The left isn't in opposition to the establishment anymore , it is the establishment. The actual aims of the left as well have changed over a hundred years. When people had much harder lives it was about food, work, a roof over your head and so on. No its about the world treating you with entitlement and the more odd and ridiculous the minority group , the more the left rally round them. There's a video been put up on youtube this afternoon

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-a-garden-par/

by Lily Allen (you know her dad Keith is another lefty loon) Lily Allen is at a very posh garden party under a huge marquee and she spots Rupert Murdoch and Liam Fox eating at another table . However our Lily is a faux lefty , we know that because when she had her frst his 'Smile' which basically sold to kids, being edgy and knowing it would raise sales she sings the third line

"you were ****ing the girl next door"

http://www.metrolyrics.com/smile-lyrics-lily-allen.html

So Lily sings lines like that to kids and then calls Murdoch and Fox ******s. There is second video in the article where Murdoch is walking back to the house with Jerry Hall and Lily mocks his age by saying it nappy change time.

Never have so many been totally brainwashed. I had to laugh on the day of the Brexit vote a labour party bloke knocked at my door asking how I was going to vote. I told him that although the brexit argument wasn't strictly left or right it however the Labour and general left party line.. I told him how when I was in the Socialst Labour League the hard left back in the early seventies was against the EEC and now here they are for it. He was an affable enough young chap but when I raised the issue of climate change he said that as a scientist it was irrefutable but agreed with GM crops so fair do's . When I asked what was he a scientist in he said 'psychology' oh dear I thought. I said imo that the young left kids gravitated to 'psychology' in the post war years right up until the nougthties when climate change took over. I also posed to him that the left distorted all human history and ignored the fact that before capitalism human existence was the pits.. I mentioned electricity and how we had none until Nicola Tesla designed the polyphase induction generator which harnessed the energy available at Niagra falls.

"Hmm he said tesla, do you mean the people making the electric cars"

I said no Nikola Tesla the man who harnessed energy and created ac electricity that powered the world have you never heard of him? He embarrassingly scratched his head and said no, made his excuse and left.

FFS he made the claim that he was a scientist and that why he knew AGW was real, dangerous and had to be dealt with. It turn out he is a psychologist and has never heard of the man who turbo charged humanity back at the turn of the twentieth century. My point being the new left attitude to history is totally distorted and doesn't want to recognise facts that don't fit their skewed outlook.

No doubt Lily Allen is well inebriated by now proud of her left wing stance by insulting Rupert Murdoch under her breath and mocking his age. The fact she too was a guest at such an exclusive garden party for the rich and famous seems to have bypassed her hypocrite detector.

Stick to weather because this is ******** from A to Z.

Tudor Hughes.

On Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:00:50 UTC+1, Jumper wrote:
On 03/07/2016 18:14, saracene wrote:
The behaviour of the lefty losing side over the Brexit business has been a real eye opener. I used to assume they must have some defensible arguments, even though I disagreed with them. But it seems they can’t argue. They exist in bubble filled with like minded people and are furiously indignant that anyone would disagree. Clearly they believe in doctrine not argument. The contempt typically expressed for the leavers’ case is absurd. They cannot even acknowledge that there are intelligent and well informed people who have put up a case that Britain would be much better off outside the EU, a case that has often been presented in parts of the mainstream media. It is pathetic, and I am losing what respect I had for the Guardianistas.



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Try replying to the right group, you brainless little ****.

Tudor Hughes.

You can be more precise and less disruptive using the reply privately in the box next to the reply icon besides the date in Google Groups.

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 2:29:57 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:00:50 UTC+1, Jumper wrote:
On 03/07/2016 18:14, saracene wrote:
The behaviour of the lefty losing side over the Brexit business has been a real eye opener. I used to assume they must have some defensible arguments, even though I disagreed with them. But it seems they can’t argue. They exist in bubble filled with like minded people and are furiously indignant that anyone would disagree. Clearly they believe in doctrine not argument. The contempt typically expressed for the leavers’ case is absurd. They cannot even acknowledge that there are intelligent and well informed people who have put up a case that Britain would be much better off outside the EU, a case that has often been presented in parts of the mainstream media. It is pathetic, and I am losing what respect I had for the Guardianistas.



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Try replying to the right group, you brainless little ****.

Tudor Hughes.

"Racist" would serve better, instead of the foul language (that is your metier) but that is beyond you, isn't it?

On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:04:22 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 2:29:57 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:00:50 UTC+1, Jumper wrote:
On 03/07/2016 18:14, saracene wrote:
The behaviour of the lefty losing side over the Brexit business has been a real eye opener. I used to assume they must have some defensible arguments, even though I disagreed with them. But it seems they can’t argue. They exist in bubble filled with like minded people and are furiously indignant that anyone would disagree. Clearly they believe in doctrine not argument. The contempt typically expressed for the leavers’ case is absurd. They cannot even acknowledge that there are intelligent and well informed people who have put up a case that Britain would be much better off outside the EU, a case that has often been presented in parts of the mainstream media. It is pathetic, and I am losing what respect I had for the Guardianistas.



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Try replying to the right group, you brainless little ****.

Tudor Hughes.

"Racist" would serve better, instead of the foul language (that is your metier) but that is beyond you, isn't it?

What do you think of Jumper's post? Quite apart from the content do you think it's appropriate for a weather group? You won't say. This has happened a number of times, and with other discussable subjects, and you apparently have no opinion. What you do is to wait for someone else to express an opinion and then attack that poster in personal terms. But your own opinion we will never know. These are the characteristics of the scavenger, the vulture, which is something you called Mike Tullet, unbelievably. But the term fits you better than anyone else in this group. You like to feed off what you perceive as their weaknesses while being careful not to give anything away.
BTW, if you think "brainless little ****" is foul language you need to get out more though the world will not thank me for that suggestion.

Tudor Hughes

On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 23:11:30 UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:04:22 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 2:29:57 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:00:50 UTC+1, Jumper wrote:
On 03/07/2016 18:14, saracene wrote:
The behaviour of the lefty losing side over the Brexit business has been a real eye opener. I used to assume they must have some defensible arguments, even though I disagreed with them. But it seems they can’t argue. They exist in bubble filled with like minded people and are furiously indignant that anyone would disagree. Clearly they believe in doctrine not argument. The contempt typically expressed for the leavers’ case is absurd. They cannot even acknowledge that there are intelligent and well informed people who have put up a case that Britain would be much better off outside the EU, a case that has often been presented in parts of the mainstream media. It is pathetic, and I am losing what respect I had for the Guardianistas.



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Try replying to the right group, you brainless little ****.

Tudor Hughes.

"Racist" would serve better, instead of the foul language (that is your metier) but that is beyond you, isn't it?

What do you think of Jumper's post? Quite apart from the content do you think it's appropriate for a weather group? You won't say. This has happened a number of times, and with other discussable subjects, and you apparently have no opinion. What you do is to wait for someone else to express an opinion and then attack that poster in personal terms. But your own opinion we will never know. These are the characteristics of the scavenger, the vulture, which is something you called Mike Tullet, unbelievably. But the term fits you better than anyone else in this group. You like to feed off what you perceive as their weaknesses while being careful not to give anything away.
BTW, if you think "brainless little ****" is foul language you need to get out more though the world will not thank me for that suggestion.

Tudor Hughes

Tudor

Dawlish is now stuck between a rock and that hard place they keep telling us about. Here he is stuck with people he detests but if he signs up for 'weather and climate' he knows he won't last that long. In a way its great, this new set up.

On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 23:28:53 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 23:11:30 UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:04:22 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 2:29:57 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:00:50 UTC+1, Jumper wrote:
On 03/07/2016 18:14, saracene wrote:
The behaviour of the lefty losing side over the Brexit business has been a real eye opener. I used to assume they must have some defensible arguments, even though I disagreed with them. But it seems they can’t argue. They exist in bubble filled with like minded people and are furiously indignant that anyone would disagree. Clearly they believe in doctrine not argument. The contempt typically expressed for the leavers’ case is absurd. They cannot even acknowledge that there are intelligent and well informed people who have put up a case that Britain would be much better off outside the EU, a case that has often been presented in parts of the mainstream media. It is pathetic, and I am losing what respect I had for the Guardianistas.



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Try replying to the right group, you brainless little ****.

Tudor Hughes.

"Racist" would serve better, instead of the foul language (that is your metier) but that is beyond you, isn't it?

What do you think of Jumper's post? Quite apart from the content do you think it's appropriate for a weather group? You won't say. This has happened a number of times, and with other discussable subjects, and you apparently have no opinion. What you do is to wait for someone else to express an opinion and then attack that poster in personal terms. But your own opinion we will never know. These are the characteristics of the scavenger, the vulture, which is something you called Mike Tullet, unbelievably. But the term fits you better than anyone else in this group. You like to feed off what you perceive as their weaknesses while being careful not to give anything away.
BTW, if you think "brainless little ****" is foul language you need to get out more though the world will not thank me for that suggestion.

Tudor Hughes

Tudor

Dawlish is now stuck between a rock and that hard place they keep telling us about. Here he is stuck with people he detests but if he signs up for 'weather and climate' he knows he won't last that long. In a way its great, this new set up.

For me it is. There is a huge sense of relief at being able to post to an earnest civilised group. I can't see quite what's in it for you, though, except justifiable vengeance at Dawlish, which I fully share. He's a marked man and it bloody well serves him right. If he wants to post to the new group he'll simply have to stop being Dawlish because there will be no tolerance of personal remarks or a bullying style. How long can one suppress one's personality? Not long enough, if his record of exclusion from moderated groups is anything to go by.

Tudor Hughes. PS Sod the Portugooses.