On Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:27:02 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 8:11:06 AM UTC+1, JohnD wrote:
"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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You obviously feel that AGW is happening, you obviously feel its going to
be a problem. So what else does it take for you to personally start leading
by example.

Afraid that I just don't get this obsession with what any particular
individual might or might not do. The _only_ thing that will ultimately make
any difference is agreed intergovernmental action and policy. What one
person does - or even a minority of like-minded individuals - makes
negligible difference. You don't have to be a green zealot to have your eyes
wide open to the likely consequences of continued AGW.

I normally agree with you John, but here I disagree fundamentally. It is pressure from the bottom up.

Got it, nailed it! Bottom's up:
https://ecocrap.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/adags.jpg

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. I don't care what they think on other matters. Their lack of humanity towards their fellow humans precludes consideration of any of their other thoughts, for me


It staggers me that you can be so righteous in your condemnation of
'racists' and do so with such bigotry.

You declare yourself to be a bigot and you do so with such pride.

--
Alan LeHun

On Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:59:51 UTC+1, Alan LeHun wrote:
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says...
. I don't care what they think on other matters. Their lack of humanity towards their fellow humans precludes consideration of any of their other thoughts, for me


It staggers me that you can be so righteous in your condemnation of
'racists' and do so with such bigotry.

You declare yourself to be a bigot and you do so with such pride.

--
Alan LeHun



Paul is like a tap of nastiness that never turns off. he's more akin to an intolerant spigot.

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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Paul is like a tap of nastiness that never turns off. he's more akin to an
intolerant spigot.
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Hi Lawrence,I don't believe anyone who knows you properly would attach the
'racist' label.You articulate well what a lot of people think in society
,away from the elitist and hard Left elements.
Enoch Powell was often asked was he a racist and his response would usually
be --if you mean do I believe one race is superior or inferior to another
then I don't.When he died
his good friend Tony Benn declared he didn't believe he was a racist rather
a nationalist who cared for his country.Calling someone racist without proof
is an attempt to close down an argument -- -- just ask Nigel Farage .There
are racial differences initially when those races first mix but equality of
opportunity(education etc.) helps smooth the issues with an even playing
field.Try ignoring personal attacks emanating from the bigotry of someone
who parrots the drivel of the pc brigade.It gives them pleasure when you
rise to the bait or spit obscenities in response.
However this is a weather discussion group so politics shouldn't be showing
its hand and you shouldn't start so many OT threads.Another factor,getting
stressed out or wound up here and there can only negatively influence your
health with heart disease /colitis/IBS possibly affecting you.That's all I'm
saying on the matter.Over and out.

On Friday, 9 September 2016 11:44:55 UTC+1, P.Chortik wrote:
"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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Paul is like a tap of nastiness that never turns off. he's more akin to an
intolerant spigot.
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Hi Lawrence,I don't believe anyone who knows you properly would attach the
'racist' label.You articulate well what a lot of people think in society
,away from the elitist and hard Left elements.
Enoch Powell was often asked was he a racist and his response would usually
be --if you mean do I believe one race is superior or inferior to another
then I don't.When he died
his good friend Tony Benn declared he didn't believe he was a racist rather
a nationalist who cared for his country.Calling someone racist without proof
is an attempt to close down an argument -- -- just ask Nigel Farage .There
are racial differences initially when those races first mix but equality of
opportunity(education etc.) helps smooth the issues with an even playing
field.Try ignoring personal attacks emanating from the bigotry of someone
who parrots the drivel of the pc brigade.It gives them pleasure when you
rise to the bait or spit obscenities in response.
However this is a weather discussion group so politics shouldn't be showing
its hand and you shouldn't start so many OT threads.Another factor,getting
stressed out or wound up here and there can only negatively influence your
health with heart disease /colitis/IBS possibly affecting you.That's all I'm
saying on the matter.Over and out.

Fancy using enoch powell as an example as he was either, neither racist or politician. Personally I think he was a racist in the wrong job. But all politicians are in the wrong job are they not?

But back to the topic of mutton headed thinking: How can anyone with an IQ even one as low as a wet sheep's reconcile the advent of the maximum Arctic ice recession with what that mutton head has said about August?

He obviously can't see the Atlantic Approaches from his field. Or if he's hoping for no more records; perhaps he will consider throwing out his cracked ones?

On Friday, 9 September 2016 11:44:55 UTC+1, P.Chortik wrote:
"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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Paul is like a tap of nastiness that never turns off. he's more akin to an
intolerant spigot.
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Hi Lawrence,I don't believe anyone who knows you properly would attach the
'racist' label.You articulate well what a lot of people think in society
,away from the elitist and hard Left elements.
Enoch Powell was often asked was he a racist and his response would usually
be --if you mean do I believe one race is superior or inferior to another
then I don't.When he died
his good friend Tony Benn declared he didn't believe he was a racist rather
a nationalist who cared for his country.Calling someone racist without proof
is an attempt to close down an argument -- -- just ask Nigel Farage .There
are racial differences initially when those races first mix but equality of
opportunity(education etc.) helps smooth the issues with an even playing
field.Try ignoring personal attacks emanating from the bigotry of someone
who parrots the drivel of the pc brigade.It gives them pleasure when you
rise to the bait or spit obscenities in response.
However this is a weather discussion group so politics shouldn't be showing
its hand and you shouldn't start so many OT threads.Another factor,getting
stressed out or wound up here and there can only negatively influence your
health with heart disease /colitis/IBS possibly affecting you.That's all I'm
saying on the matter.Over and out.




I have some very friends but I like to be a bit of a loner but amongst my friends -and yes I know people will go 'here we go', but I have a mate called Hector he came to Britain from Jamaica in 1960 and I met him through work ten years ago and in that time we have become good mates and he calls in about three times week for a chat , why he even took me to his Cajun dancing do's.-not my cup of tea. Only last Friday the issue of immigration came up and again I held my position that's it not an argument against race its an argument against resources and numbers. You know possibly the left and right in almost all cases want the improvement of peoples lives, all peoples lives, but the fundamental difference is how is that achieved.

Just back to the idiots who at the drop of a hat scream racist in attempt to avoid all discussion. Does Garvey really believe I could countenance any harm to all those people over the years I've known and yet he accuses me of the most vile slanderous remarks. Anyhow enough of his poison.

On Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:59:51 UTC+1, Alan LeHun wrote:
In article ,
says...
. I don't care what they think on other matters. Their lack of humanity towards their fellow humans precludes consideration of any of their other thoughts, for me


It staggers me that you can be so righteous in your condemnation of
'racists' and do so with such bigotry.

You declare yourself to be a bigot and you do so with such pride.

--
Alan LeHun

Perch? Your viewpoint is clearly clouded by your blunt talons.