In the S.E.England we could do with some of this rain now,what a contrast to
2016.
Readings recorded on a Negretti & Zambra rainfall chart filled in by my
father @ Merstham Sy.300' ASL

September 14 0.23"
15 3.92"
16 0.99"
17 0.61"
`````````
5.75"

The rain on the 15 th was continuous,heavy/very heavy and sometimes
torrential.Occasional
sheet lightning.Flooding occurred in areas that had never been so affected
before.

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:48:54 PM UTC+1, P.Chortik wrote:
In the S.E.England we could do with some of this rain now,what a contrast to
2016.
Readings recorded on a Negretti & Zambra rainfall chart filled in by my
father @ Merstham Sy.300' ASL

September 14 0.23"
15 3.92"
16 0.99"
17 0.61"
`````````
5.75"

The rain on the 15 th was continuous,heavy/very heavy and sometimes
torrential.Occasional
sheet lightning.Flooding occurred in areas that had never been so affected
before.

30mm in 20 minutes recorded at Redruth & near Portreath during one of the several thunderstorm that affected west & Central Cornwall from 15:00 on 13th to 05:00 on 14th. I've just seen the aftermath in the valley to Portreath, the stream rose from a trickle to it's highest level for decades in a few minutes, leaving no time to move stuff, no weather warning throughout the 15 or so hours of thunderstorms, though a flood warning was issued for Portreath after the event.

It's amazing how little news coverage it got, considering the main railway line was flooded, Camborne Station was underwater, people trapped in their homes, houses struck by lightning etc.

This was Falmouth http://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/lates...s-freak-storm/

I'm getting info together & intend to upload a PDF file shortly.

I'm fed up reading about the hot dry south!!

Graham
Penzance

On Thursday, 15 September 2016 12:48:54 UTC+1, P.Chortik wrote:
In the S.E.England we could do with some of this rain now,what a contrast to
2016.
Readings recorded on a Negretti & Zambra rainfall chart filled in by my
father @ Merstham Sy.300' ASL

September 14 0.23"
15 3.92"
16 0.99"
17 0.61"
`````````
5.75"

The rain on the 15 th was continuous,heavy/very heavy and sometimes
torrential.Occasional
sheet lightning.Flooding occurred in areas that had never been so affected
before.

I remember it well and it's not often Surrey makes the weather headlines but it certainly did this time. The rain band was WSW to ENE across the county and included north Kent as well. The Wey at Guildford went where it pleased which included the new Yvonne Arnaud Theatre which was flooded to a depth of 10 feet. The total rainfall for the 2 days was just about 7" in the middle of the band and even my "unfloodable" road was temporarily impassable.
A very interesting year, 1968, with very anomalous circulation patterns, much of it "upside down". Bob Pritchard remarked a few years ago that had a year like that occurred recently the media would have been running about like headless chickens telling us the weather had gone mad and we're all doomed etc etc.

Tudor Hughes, Hamsey Green, Warlingham, Surrey, 557 ft.

In message , P.Chortik
writes
In the S.E.England we could do with some of this rain now,what a
contrast to 2016.

Only SOME, though. As much rtain as in 1968 would be bound to cause
serious problems.

Readings recorded on a Negretti & Zambra rainfall chart filled in by
my father @ Merstham Sy.300' ASL

September 14 0.23"
15 3.92"
16 0.99"
17 0.61"
`````````
5.75"

The rain on the 15 th was continuous,heavy/very heavy and sometimes
torrential.Occasional
sheet lightning.Flooding occurred in areas that had never been so
affected before.

I remember it well. I've never seen such heavy rain over anything like
so prolonged a period since. I was glad that we lived on a bit of a
hill.
--
John Hall
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin"
attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp,
a former director of the Bank of England

30mm in 20 minutes recorded at Redruth & near Portreath during one of the
several thunderstorm that affected west & Central Cornwall from 15:00 on
13th to 05:00 on 14th. I've just seen the aftermath in the valley to
Portreath, the stream rose from a trickle to it's highest level for decades
in a few minutes, leaving no time to move stuff, no weather warning
throughout the 15 or so hours of thunderstorms, though a flood warning was
issued for Portreath after the event.

It's amazing how little news coverage it got, considering the main railway
line was flooded, Camborne Station was underwater, people trapped in their
homes, houses struck by lightning etc.

This was Falmouth
http://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/lates...s-freak-storm/

I'm getting info together & intend to upload a PDF file shortly.

I'm fed up reading about the hot dry south!!

Graham
Penzance
##############
I agree, sparse nationwide coverage and that applies to the storms in the
Manchester area too.The cancellation of the Man City match caused a fair bit
of comment though.My nephew drives school buses/coaches in that area,he
lives in Warrington and he was aghast at the lightning he saw--he described
it as spider web lightning travelling in slow-motion across the sky.
What was the lightning like that accompanied your downpours?

On Thursday, 15 September 2016 14:33:40 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:48:54 PM UTC+1, P.Chortik wrote:
In the S.E.England we could do with some of this rain now,what a contrast to
2016.
Readings recorded on a Negretti & Zambra rainfall chart filled in by my
father @ Merstham Sy.300' ASL

September 14 0.23"
15 3.92"
16 0.99"
17 0.61"
`````````
5.75"

The rain on the 15 th was continuous,heavy/very heavy and sometimes
torrential.Occasional
sheet lightning.Flooding occurred in areas that had never been so affected
before.

30mm in 20 minutes recorded at Redruth & near Portreath during one of the several thunderstorm that affected west & Central Cornwall from 15:00 on 13th to 05:00 on 14th. I've just seen the aftermath in the valley to Portreath, the stream rose from a trickle to it's highest level for decades in a few minutes, leaving no time to move stuff, no weather warning throughout the 15 or so hours of thunderstorms, though a flood warning was issued for Portreath after the event.

It's amazing how little news coverage it got, considering the main railway line was flooded, Camborne Station was underwater, people trapped in their homes, houses struck by lightning etc.

This was Falmouth http://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/lates...s-freak-storm/

I'm getting info together & intend to upload a PDF file shortly.

I'm fed up reading about the hot dry south!!

Graham
Penzance

Ha! All you have to do is read about it whereas we actually have to put up with it. It is, actually, very nice indeed but there is so little "weather" that I am becoming bored with it. The temperatures are remarkable but it's becoming a bit like some benign holiday resort where good weather is taken for granted.
BTW it's not always dry here. My annual mean (34 yrs) is 822 mm, which may surprise you. The "Surrey Desert" is confined to the NW of the county.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 557 ft, 169 m.

P.Chortik wrote:




30mm in 20 minutes recorded at Redruth & near Portreath during one of the
several thunderstorm that affected west & Central Cornwall from 15:00 on 13th
to 05:00 on 14th. I've just seen the aftermath in the valley to Portreath,
the stream rose from a trickle to it's highest level for decades in a few
minutes, leaving no time to move stuff, no weather warning throughout the 15
or so hours of thunderstorms, though a flood warning was issued for Portreath
after the event.

It's amazing how little news coverage it got, considering the main railway
line was flooded, Camborne Station was underwater, people trapped in their
homes, houses struck by lightning etc.

This was Falmouth
http://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/lates...elievable-pict
ures-from-cornwalls-freak-storm/

I'm getting info together & intend to upload a PDF file shortly.

I'm fed up reading about the hot dry south!!

Graham
Penzance
##############
I agree, sparse nationwide coverage and that applies to the storms in the
Manchester area too.The cancellation of the Man City match caused a fair bit
of comment though.My nephew drives school buses/coaches in that area,he lives
in Warrington and he was aghast at the lightning he saw--he described it as
spider web lightning travelling in slow-motion across the sky. What was the
lightning like that accompanied your downpours?

Here in Tideswell the lightning was a continuous flickering for the best part
of an hour. There wasn't anything of the usual gap between individual flashes.
It was just 'ON' all the time. I've never seen anything quite like it in this
country. We only got 16mm of rain but 10mm of that came in a 5-min downpour,
accompanied by large hail. I'm not surprised that there was a lot of flooding
nearby. There were no warnings for this area.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

I remember it well and it's not often Surrey makes the weather
headlines but it certainly did this time. The rain band was WSW to ENE
across the county and included north Kent as well. The Wey at Guildford
went where it pleased which included the new Yvonne Arnaud Theatre which was
flooded to a depth of 10 feet. The total rainfall for the 2 days was just
about 7" in the middle of the band and even my "unfloodable" road was
temporarily impassable.
A very interesting year, 1968, with very anomalous circulation
patterns, much of it "upside down". Bob Pritchard remarked a few years ago
that had a year like that occurred recently the media would have been
running about like headless chickens telling us the weather had gone mad and
we're all doomed etc etc.

Tudor Hughes, Hamsey Green, Warlingham, Surrey, 557 ft.
#########################
The readings were taken at 18.00 hrs BST so the rainfall figure in an actual
midnight to midnight day would have been even more outstanding.The lake at
Gatton flooded I was told at the time. http://www.gattonpark.com/
Apart from that ,I remember the searing heat at the start of July 1968 that
coincided with 'O' -level exams,an uncomfortable experience.There were
severe thunderstorms with coloured hail/rain I
recall too near that date.

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 4:30:18 PM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Thursday, 15 September 2016 14:33:40 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:48:54 PM UTC+1, P.Chortik wrote:
In the S.E.England we could do with some of this rain now,what a contrast to
2016.
Readings recorded on a Negretti & Zambra rainfall chart filled in by my
father @ Merstham Sy.300' ASL

September 14 0.23"
15 3.92"
16 0.99"
17 0.61"
`````````
5.75"

The rain on the 15 th was continuous,heavy/very heavy and sometimes
torrential.Occasional
sheet lightning.Flooding occurred in areas that had never been so affected
before.

30mm in 20 minutes recorded at Redruth & near Portreath during one of the several thunderstorm that affected west & Central Cornwall from 15:00 on 13th to 05:00 on 14th. I've just seen the aftermath in the valley to Portreath, the stream rose from a trickle to it's highest level for decades in a few minutes, leaving no time to move stuff, no weather warning throughout the 15 or so hours of thunderstorms, though a flood warning was issued for Portreath after the event.

It's amazing how little news coverage it got, considering the main railway line was flooded, Camborne Station was underwater, people trapped in their homes, houses struck by lightning etc.

This was Falmouth http://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/lates...s-freak-storm/

I'm getting info together & intend to upload a PDF file shortly.

I'm fed up reading about the hot dry south!!

Graham
Penzance

Ha! All you have to do is read about it whereas we actually have to put up with it. It is, actually, very nice indeed but there is so little "weather" that I am becoming bored with it. The temperatures are remarkable but it's becoming a bit like some benign holiday resort where good weather is taken for granted.
BTW it's not always dry here. My annual mean (34 yrs) is 822 mm, which may surprise you. The "Surrey Desert" is confined to the NW of the county.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 557 ft, 169 m.

Well, you might get some "weather" tomorrow?

Yesterday couldn't have been a bigger contrast, 15 hours after the last of the storms http://www.sennen-cove.com/index.htm , rather idyllic.

Interesting climate the UK has.

Graham
Penzance

On Thursday, 15 September 2016 16:24:07 UTC+1, P.Chortik wrote:
30mm in 20 minutes recorded at Redruth & near Portreath during one of the
several thunderstorm that affected west & Central Cornwall from 15:00 on
13th to 05:00 on 14th. I've just seen the aftermath in the valley to
Portreath, the stream rose from a trickle to it's highest level for decades
in a few minutes, leaving no time to move stuff, no weather warning
throughout the 15 or so hours of thunderstorms, though a flood warning was
issued for Portreath after the event.

It's amazing how little news coverage it got, considering the main railway
line was flooded, Camborne Station was underwater, people trapped in their
homes, houses struck by lightning etc.

This was Falmouth
http://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/lates...s-freak-storm/

I'm getting info together & intend to upload a PDF file shortly.

I'm fed up reading about the hot dry south!!

Graham
Penzance
##############
I agree, sparse nationwide coverage and that applies to the storms in the
Manchester area too.The cancellation of the Man City match caused a fair bit
of comment though.My nephew drives school buses/coaches in that area,he
lives in Warrington and he was aghast at the lightning he saw--he described
it as spider web lightning travelling in slow-motion across the sky.
What was the lightning like that accompanied your downpours?

I agree even as a suburban Londoner that the coverage of provincial weather phenomena has been poor, showing a metropolitan bias that I had thought was on the way out. That's the media for you. They think south of the Thames is "here be dragons" and as for the rest of the country it may as well be on another planet.
As to your nephew's view of the lightning I can say that I have only seen such a phenomenon once and that was 58 years ago during the Horsham Hailstorm of 5 Sept 1958. This was the most dramatic and violent storm I have ever seen and just after the heaviest rain there was this slow-motion lightning moving roughly horizontally across the sky, branching as it did so. A bit like a time-lapse film of a growing plant, but sideways. I think it is called rocket lightning but I have no idea of the cause. It seems to be associated with only the most vigorously electrical of thunderstorms.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.