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On Sunday, 22 January 2017 14:17:07 UTC, N_Cook wrote:
On 22/01/2017 10:07, N_Cook wrote: New thread as presuambly of international significance as the media , where mentioning this global minimum, refers to the Wipneus data plots. I've rechecked my transcriptions and summations from the last 5 records on the primary source, for the simple global extent http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ch...sea-ice-graph/ and contrary to the plot on , apparently ceased updating , or my browser not doing so https://sites.google.com/site/arctis...t_byyear_b.png I don't have any recent uptick representaion, of recent increasing global sea-ice extent I get, in millions of sq km, inexorable depletion of sea-ice 16 Jan 2017, 16.692 17 Jan, 16.593 18 Jan, 16.507 19 Jan, 16.455 20 Jan, 16.444 (would someone else check my figures?) Anyone know which version is corrct? I suspect Wipneus is using a different data feed than the Charctic one, area rather than extent perhaps, JAXA ? No need to change the luck-would-have-it title, global sea-ice went up by 1000 sq km for the 21 Jan reading of 16.445 Summarising so far. Just because experts do not know of a connection between the poles that could make the global amount of sea-ice so constant for 35 years, does not mean there is no connection. Even if it is climate change (insufficient amount of it until last year), that is now so intrusive that it affects both poles whether in their summer or winter. There is a phenomena, known to experts as the polar see-saw, that would explain the "constant" sea ice over the last 35 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_see-saw http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...77379115000554 As the Arctic sea ice decreased the Antarctic sea ice increased. Of course that does not explain why the see-saw has now broken down with both the Arctic and Antarctic sea ice decreasing. |
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On Monday, 23 January 2017 16:01:12 UTC, Alastair wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2017 14:17:07 UTC, N_Cook wrote: On 22/01/2017 10:07, N_Cook wrote: New thread as presuambly of international significance as the media , where mentioning this global minimum, refers to the Wipneus data plots. I've rechecked my transcriptions and summations from the last 5 records on the primary source, for the simple global extent http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ch...sea-ice-graph/ and contrary to the plot on , apparently ceased updating , or my browser not doing so https://sites.google.com/site/arctis...t_byyear_b.png I don't have any recent uptick representaion, of recent increasing global sea-ice extent I get, in millions of sq km, inexorable depletion of sea-ice 16 Jan 2017, 16.692 17 Jan, 16.593 18 Jan, 16.507 19 Jan, 16.455 20 Jan, 16.444 (would someone else check my figures?) Anyone know which version is corrct? I suspect Wipneus is using a different data feed than the Charctic one, area rather than extent perhaps, JAXA ? No need to change the luck-would-have-it title, global sea-ice went up by 1000 sq km for the 21 Jan reading of 16.445 Summarising so far. Just because experts do not know of a connection between the poles that could make the global amount of sea-ice so constant for 35 years, does not mean there is no connection. Even if it is climate change (insufficient amount of it until last year), that is now so intrusive that it affects both poles whether in their summer or winter. There is a phenomena, known to experts as the polar see-saw, that would explain the "constant" sea ice over the last 35 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_see-saw http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...77379115000554 As the Arctic sea ice decreased the Antarctic sea ice increased. Of course that does not explain why the see-saw has now broken down with both the Arctic and Antarctic sea ice decreasing. I don't suppose either of the main contributors to this escargo chasseur panzerfraus have consulted the Arctic weather charts, have they? I haven't been following along, I just presumed the reason would be sea surface currents rather than anticyclone activity. I dare say they don't want to know how global cooling could be removing the ice, nor how. It would be interesting to find that the present earthquake activity is the cause of it all. I only hope they are not taking turns sticking their heads in Dawlish. Dirty buggers! |
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On Monday, 6 February 2017 21:54:51 UTC, Weatherlawyer wrote:
'Dawlish.' The obsession continues, amongst total, unadulterated, denial. |
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