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February 22nd 17, 08:12 AM
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Is this term Daily Mail / MetO-speak for cyclogenesis?
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February 22nd 17, 09:59 AM
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On 22/02/2017 08:12, N_Cook wrote:
Is this term Daily Mail / MetO-speak for cyclogenesis? Yes. It is dumbing down of rapid cyclogenesis. It seems to have been a US import from about 2010. Makes headlines sound so much more apocalyptic. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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February 22nd 17, 10:20 AM
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On 22/02/17 09:59, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/02/2017 08:12, N_Cook wrote: Is this term Daily Mail / MetO-speak for cyclogenesis? Yes. It is dumbing down of rapid cyclogenesis. It seems to have been a US import from about 2010. Makes headlines sound so much more apocalyptic. Mind you, this one seems to fit the criterium of deepening by 24hPa or more in 24 hours. Also it's an import from Norway, not USA, and from about seventy years ago, not 2010. So no cigar I'm afraid. ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive_cyclogenesis -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer] Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or an idiot from any direction! [Irish proverb] |
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February 22nd 17, 11:39 AM
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On 22/02/2017 10:20, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 22/02/17 09:59, Martin Brown wrote: On 22/02/2017 08:12, N_Cook wrote: Is this term Daily Mail / MetO-speak for cyclogenesis? Yes. It is dumbing down of rapid cyclogenesis. It seems to have been a US import from about 2010. Makes headlines sound so much more apocalyptic. Mind you, this one seems to fit the criterium of deepening by 24hPa or more in 24 hours. Also it's an import from Norway, not USA, and from about seventy years ago, not 2010. So no cigar I'm afraid. ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive_cyclogenesis I've not yet seen a closed isobar on an Atlantic near real-time synoptic chart yet , as of 11:00 GMT today. Any educated guess when a putative Doris ring will appear? |
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February 22nd 17, 02:20 PM
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On 22/02/17 11:39, N_Cook wrote:
On 22/02/2017 10:20, Graham P Davis wrote: On 22/02/17 09:59, Martin Brown wrote: On 22/02/2017 08:12, N_Cook wrote: Is this term Daily Mail / MetO-speak for cyclogenesis? Yes. It is dumbing down of rapid cyclogenesis. It seems to have been a US import from about 2010. Makes headlines sound so much more apocalyptic. Mind you, this one seems to fit the criterium of deepening by 24hPa or more in 24 hours. Also it's an import from Norway, not USA, and from about seventy years ago, not 2010. So no cigar I'm afraid. ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive_cyclogenesis I've not yet seen a closed isobar on an Atlantic near real-time synoptic chart yet , as of 11:00 GMT today. Any educated guess when a putative Doris ring will appear? First 06Z GFS forecast with a closed isobar is 00Z (992hPa) but 21Z would probably have one if drawn at 2hPa intervals. Have a look he http://wxcharts.eu/ -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer] Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or an idiot from any direction! [Irish proverb] |
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February 22nd 17, 03:51 PM
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On Wednesday, 22 February 2017 09:59:13 UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/02/2017 08:12, N_Cook wrote: Is this term Daily Mail / MetO-speak for cyclogenesis? Yes. It is dumbing down of rapid cyclogenesis. It seems to have been a US import from about 2010. Makes headlines sound so much more apocalyptic. -- Regards, Martin Brown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Americans even like to talk about 'bombogenesis' these days. 24 mb drop over 24 hrs. https://eideard.com/2017/02/18/bombo...ted-of-course/ Len Wembury |
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February 22nd 17, 04:23 PM
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On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 3:51:59 PM UTC, Len Wood wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 February 2017 09:59:13 UTC, Martin Brown wrote: On 22/02/2017 08:12, N_Cook wrote: Is this term Daily Mail / MetO-speak for cyclogenesis? Yes. It is dumbing down of rapid cyclogenesis. It seems to have been a US import from about 2010. Makes headlines sound so much more apocalyptic. -- Regards, Martin Brown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Americans even like to talk about 'bombogenesis' these days. Len Wembury I thought that was a tribute band. Graham Penzance |
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