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Well, the usual build up to another dissapointing feature. I recorded
that part of the half hour programme that lasted 9 minutes, which
apart from some comments from Jim Bacon and Peter Gibbs lacked in
substance.

Maybe it's just me, but I find that TV try to over dramatise the whole
event, with blurring pictures and wosshing noises, yet never try to
put some meat on the bone, in the form of technical explantion. Surely
from the various weather logs from 27th November 1703 some sort of
sypnotic picture could have been constructed. Peter Gibbs did try to
make some comparison with 16th October 1987, and we got a blurry
forecast from the resident BBC East presenter (appoligies for not
remebering her name).

So often with programmes such as 999, Raging Planet and others, the
emphasis is on effects and not enough attention to the detail on the
technical side of things.

Great shame

Keith (Southend)

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In article ,
"Keith (Southend)" writes:
Surely from the various weather logs from 27th November 1703 some sort
of sypnotic picture could have been constructed.


I seem to remember having once seen one in a book (probably HH Lamb's
"Climate, History and the Modern World"). I fear that they thought that
such a chart would deter their intended audience.
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Ought never to have occurred.
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At so grotesque a blunder." E.C.Bentley (1875-1956)
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More substance here Keith-
http://www.royal-met-soc.org.uk/satmeet.html
29 - 30 NOVEMBER 2003: THE GREAT STORM 1703: a conference to mark the tercentenary of the event

also-Weather,Vol. 58 No.11 - November 2003
The Great Storm of November 1703: A new look at the seamen's records D. Wheeler p.419
http://www.royal-met-soc.org.uk/wea03.html

Does anybody know if the proceedings of the conference are going to be published?

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More substance here Keith-
http://www.royal-met-soc.org.uk/satmeet.html
29 - 30 NOVEMBER 2003: THE GREAT STORM 1703: a conference to mark the
tercentenary of the event

also-Weather,Vol. 58 No.11 - November 2003
The Great Storm of November 1703: A new look at the seamen's records D.
Wheeler p.419
http://www.royal-met-soc.org.uk/wea03.html

Does anybody know if the proceedings of the conference are going to be
published?
regards,

david


Dennis Wheeler's article in the November Weather gives a good overview of the
storm and includes one synoptic chart. The charts were actually the work of
Hubert Lamb (as John Hall mentioned) but they appear in detail in his book,
Historic Storms of the British Isles and North Sea, published by Cambridge
Univ. Press.

I can also confirm that contributors to the conference have been asked if they
are prepared to publish a written version of their presentations, but I do not
yet know if this is going to happen.

yours,

Julian
Julian Mayes, West Molesey, Surrey.



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Dennis Wheeler's article ...
I can also confirm that contributors to the conference have been asked if they
are prepared to publish a written version of their presentations, but I do not
yet know if this is going to happen.
Thanks Julian.
BTW does anybody know the exact reference for Daniel Defoe's account of the storm and what volume it
might be found in ?

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David.





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BTW does anybody know the exact reference for Daniel Defoe's account of the
storm and what volume it
might be found in ?


David, the reference is simply

Defoe, D. (1704) The Storm
I do not think there is a publisher as such (well there must have been then ,
but you know what I mean!).

There are 2 copies in the Met Office archives, accessible by appointment. It is
a large print, easily read, smallish volume.

Julian
Julian Mayes, W Molesey, Surrey.
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Thanks Julian and John,
I've discovered a timely reprint is on the way-

The Storm (Penguin Classics)
Daniel Defoe, Richard Hamblyn (Editor)
List Price: £9.99
Our Price: £7.99
Hardcover - 27 November, 2003
Not yet published
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K24726636

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...262932-9939602


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In article ,
Waghorn writes:
BTW does anybody know the exact reference for Daniel Defoe's account of
the storm and what volume it might be found in ?


I believe he wrote a whole book on it. A web search reveals that it was
entitled: "The Storm: or, a Collection Of the most Remarkable Casualties
and Disasters which happen’d in the Late Dreadful Tempest, both by Sea
and Land". (Some references omit the first three words from the title.)
It was published in 1704.
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that man can never learn anything from history."
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