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GISS has switched to its new dataset GISTEMP v4. Here are the figures
from the new dataset. Details of this change may be found on their website: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/updates_v4/ Global temperature anomalies for May. Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly by about 0.2C. 2016: +1.15C 2017: +1.09C 2019: +1.07C 2014: +1.05C 2018: +1.02C 2015: +0.98C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of May. 2015-16: +1.24C 2016-17: +1.15C 2018-19: +1.10C 2017-18: +1.05C 2014-15: +0.98C Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” - George Carlin. OS: Linux [openSUSE Tumbleweed] |
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On 04/07/2019 17:55, Graham P Davis wrote:
GISS has switched to its new dataset GISTEMP v4. Here are the figures from the new dataset. Details of this change may be found on their website: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/updates_v4/ Global temperature anomalies for May. Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly by about 0.2C. 2016: +1.15C 2017: +1.09C 2019: +1.07C 2014: +1.05C 2018: +1.02C 2015: +0.98C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of May. 2015-16: +1.24C 2016-17: +1.15C 2018-19: +1.10C 2017-18: +1.05C 2014-15: +0.98C Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data El Nino or not? no update here the last time I looked (first thursday of July) https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php but then I don't understand how their running quarter contains the 3 to 4 weeks yet to come. My colour-binning pixel-counting NOAA SST anomaly for sea-area El Nino 3.4 from https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2019/anomnight.7.4.2019.gif is on the way up again it would seem, having to go back to 1953 for any previous long duration lock-in to a half-hearted El Nino 2019 Year day number, anomaly in deg C 140: Nino +0.84 143: Nino +0.93 147: Nino +0.89 150: Nino +1.07 154: Nino +1.00 157: Nino +0.89 161: Nino +0.91 164: Nino +0.91 168: Nino +0.92 171: Nino +0.77 175: Nino +0.75 178:Nino +0.60 182 (01 July 2019): Nino +0.68 185 (04 July 2019): Nino +0.83 |
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On 04/07/2019 20:21, N_Cook wrote:
On 04/07/2019 17:55, Graham P Davis wrote: GISS has switched to its new dataset GISTEMP v4. Here are the figures from the new dataset. Details of this change may be found on their website: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/updates_v4/ Global temperature anomalies for May. Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly by about 0.2C. 2016: +1.15C 2017: +1.09C 2019: +1.07C 2014: +1.05C 2018: +1.02C 2015: +0.98C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of May. 2015-16: +1.24C 2016-17: +1.15C 2018-19: +1.10C 2017-18: +1.05C 2014-15: +0.98C Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data El Nino or not? no update here the last time I looked (first thursday of* July) https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php but then I don't understand how their running quarter contains the 3 to 4 weeks yet to come. My colour-binning pixel-counting NOAA SST anomaly for sea-area El Nino 3.4 from https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2019/anomnight.7.4.2019.gif *is on the way up again it would seem, having to go back to 1953 for any previous long duration lock-in to a half-hearted El Nino 2019 Year day number, anomaly in deg C 140: Nino +0.84 143: Nino +0.93 147: Nino +0.89 150: Nino +1.07 154: Nino +1.00 157: Nino +0.89 161: Nino +0.91 164: Nino +0.91 168: Nino +0.92 171: Nino +0.77 175: Nino +0.75 178:Nino +0.60 182 (01 July 2019): Nino +0.68 185 (04 July 2019): Nino +0.83 The NCEP CFS.v2 ensemble forecast predicts a return to ENSO_neutral during July. I don't usually put much faith in this but the cooling in depth in the Pacific plus successive Kelvin waves producing less warming each time makes me think they could be right. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ “Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, my side, and the truth.” [Ambassador Kosh] Posted via Mozilla Thunderbird on openSUSE Tumbleweed. |
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On 04/07/2019 20:58, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 04/07/2019 20:21, N_Cook wrote: On 04/07/2019 17:55, Graham P Davis wrote: GISS has switched to its new dataset GISTEMP v4. Here are the figures from the new dataset. Details of this change may be found on their website: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/updates_v4/ Global temperature anomalies for May. Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly by about 0.2C. 2016: +1.15C 2017: +1.09C 2019: +1.07C 2014: +1.05C 2018: +1.02C 2015: +0.98C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of May. 2015-16: +1.24C 2016-17: +1.15C 2018-19: +1.10C 2017-18: +1.05C 2014-15: +0.98C Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data El Nino or not? no update here the last time I looked (first thursday of July) https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php but then I don't understand how their running quarter contains the 3 to 4 weeks yet to come. My colour-binning pixel-counting NOAA SST anomaly for sea-area El Nino 3.4 from https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2019/anomnight.7.4.2019.gif is on the way up again it would seem, having to go back to 1953 for any previous long duration lock-in to a half-hearted El Nino 2019 Year day number, anomaly in deg C 140: Nino +0.84 143: Nino +0.93 147: Nino +0.89 150: Nino +1.07 154: Nino +1.00 157: Nino +0.89 161: Nino +0.91 164: Nino +0.91 168: Nino +0.92 171: Nino +0.77 175: Nino +0.75 178:Nino +0.60 182 (01 July 2019): Nino +0.68 185 (04 July 2019): Nino +0.83 The NCEP CFS.v2 ensemble forecast predicts a return to ENSO_neutral during July. I don't usually put much faith in this but the cooling in depth in the Pacific plus successive Kelvin waves producing less warming each time makes me think they could be right. I see Oz BOM is going for extended half-hearted El Nino for more than a year, ie more than the 1953 locked-in quasi-stable ? "oscillation", whatever that means for a new normal, permanent?[ no reply back from my em to the NOC (Southampton) expert on this topic ]. http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ocean/outlooks/index.shtml#region=NINO34 NINO34 probabilities Month Jul 2019 Aug 2019 Sep 2019 Oct 2019 Nov 2019 Dec 2019 NINO34 0.7? 0.5? 0.5? 0.6? 0.7? 0.8? below -0.8? 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% neutral 56.6% 70.7% 70.7% 60.6% 52.5% 42.4% above 0.8? 43.4% 29.3% 29.3% 39.4% 47.5% 57.6% |
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On 06/07/2019 09:47, N_Cook wrote:
On 04/07/2019 20:58, Graham P Davis wrote: On 04/07/2019 20:21, N_Cook wrote: On 04/07/2019 17:55, Graham P Davis wrote: GISS has switched to its new dataset GISTEMP v4. Here are the figures from the new dataset. Details of this change may be found on their website: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/updates_v4/ Global temperature anomalies for May. Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly by about 0.2C. 2016: +1.15C 2017: +1.09C 2019: +1.07C 2014: +1.05C 2018: +1.02C 2015: +0.98C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of May. 2015-16: +1.24C 2016-17: +1.15C 2018-19: +1.10C 2017-18: +1.05C 2014-15: +0.98C Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data El Nino or not? no update here the last time I looked (first thursday of July) https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php but then I don't understand how their running quarter contains the 3 to 4 weeks yet to come. My colour-binning pixel-counting NOAA SST anomaly for sea-area El Nino 3.4 from https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2019/anomnight.7.4.2019.gif is on the way up again it would seem, having to go back to 1953 for any previous long duration lock-in to a half-hearted El Nino 2019 Year day number, anomaly in deg C 140: Nino +0.84 143: Nino +0.93 147: Nino +0.89 150: Nino +1.07 154: Nino +1.00 157: Nino +0.89 161: Nino +0.91 164: Nino +0.91 168: Nino +0.92 171: Nino +0.77 175: Nino +0.75 178:Nino +0.60 182 (01 July 2019): Nino +0.68 185 (04 July 2019): Nino +0.83 The NCEP CFS.v2 ensemble forecast predicts a return to ENSO_neutral during July. I don't usually put much faith in this but the cooling in depth in the Pacific plus successive Kelvin waves producing less warming each time makes me think they could be right. I see Oz BOM is going for extended half-hearted El Nino for more than a year, ie more than the 1953 locked-in quasi-stable ? "oscillation", whatever that means for a new normal, permanent?[ no reply back from my em to the NOC (Southampton) expert on this topic ]. http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ocean/outlooks/index.shtml#region=NINO34 NINO34 probabilities Month Jul 2019 Aug 2019 Sep 2019 Oct 2019 Nov 2019 Dec 2019 NINO34 0.7? 0.5? 0.5? 0.6? 0.7? 0.8? below -0.8? 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% neutral 56.6% 70.7% 70.7% 60.6% 52.5% 42.4% above 0.8? 43.4% 29.3% 29.3% 39.4% 47.5% 57.6% 1953 half-hearted El Nino Feb 1953 to Feb 1954 2019 , Oct 2018 to perhaps Dec 2019 from https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/mohippo/pdf/o/i/fact_sheet_no._9_updated.pdf (can probably exclude march 1953 references below as ENSO is in the Pacific and hardly stated in 1953) 1953, 9th highest annual mean temperature , Scotland lowest march monthly rain NI 2nd lowest annual rain NI 8th lowest rain England Highest 30-minute rain total: 80 mm Eskdalemuir (Dumfriesshire) 26 June 1953 Highest March pressure 1047.9 hPa St Mary’s Airport (Isles of Scilly) 9 March 1953 Lowest September pressure 957.1 hPa Claremorris (Co. Mayo) 21 September 1953 1954 Lowest monthly temp February –20.0 °C Welshpool (Powys) 2 February 1954 2nd highest annual rain Wales 1768.2 mm 1954 4th highest annual rain Scotland 1716.5 mm 1954 4th highest annual rain NI, 1276.6 mm 1954 6th highest annual rain England , 992.3 mm 1954 The highest rainfall total in one year in the United Kingdom was 6,528 mm recorded at Sprinkling Tarn (Cumbria) in 1954 5th lowest sunshine England 1282.6 hours 1954 8th lowest sunshine Wales, 1277.9 hours 1954 8th lowest sunshine Scotland , 1124.7 hours 1954 So if any correlation with extremes in the UK then high rainfall and followon of low sunshine. |
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