Keith Harris wrote:

Last year we went to Devon just north of Tiverton. While out on a
walk I did a detour and found Liscombe (03710) at 348m.

This year we're heading to the Peaks but I can't find an official
weather station up there, which surprises me, especially given the
size of the area. Skipton used to report, although that is not
particularily high up. Is there one up there that I've missed?

Mustn't forget Norman's at Tideswell of course :-)

Keith (Southend)

The nearest one is Leek Thorncliffe (03330) which is NE of Leek, in
Staffordshire. It's at about 300m but often isn't particularly
representative of conditions in the Peak District National Park. I've
been sending OBS to the Met Office for the past 10 years. They are very
appreciative because the National Park is something of a 'black hole'
in the official observing network.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
twitter: @TideswellWeathr

As Climate stations are part of the official network, there's one historic one that's easily accessible - Buxton. In the little park behind the town hall. Norman has mentioned it a few times. I've not been to Chatsworth House for decades but when I did go there was an unofficial met station on the lawns just east of the house - close to the exit. I wonder if it is still there?

Julian

wrote:

As Climate stations are part of the official network, there's one
historic one that's easily accessible - Buxton. In the little park
behind the town hall. Norman has mentioned it a few times. I've not
been to Chatsworth House for decades but when I did go there was an
unofficial met station on the lawns just east of the house - close to
the exit. I wonder if it is still there?

Julian

Indeed. Daily data for Buxton since 1875 (and for various periods for
all manner of other places) are available at

https://catalogue.ceda.ac.uk/

You have to register but there's no charge.

The Buxton observing site is now surrounded (and partly overhung) by
trees that wouldn't have been there in 1875. The instrument enclosure
itself has a rather uncared for look about it.

Data from Chatsworth House Gardens are on the CEDA site for the period
1965-1974 so perhaps the instrument enclosure has gone.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
twitter: @TideswellWeathr

On Monday, 12 August 2019 14:04:56 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
wrote:

As Climate stations are part of the official network, there's one
historic one that's easily accessible - Buxton. In the little park
behind the town hall. Norman has mentioned it a few times. I've not
been to Chatsworth House for decades but when I did go there was an
unofficial met station on the lawns just east of the house - close to
the exit. I wonder if it is still there?

Julian

Indeed. Daily data for Buxton since 1875 (and for various periods for
all manner of other places) are available at

https://catalogue.ceda.ac.uk/

You have to register but there's no charge.

The Buxton observing site is now surrounded (and partly overhung) by
trees that wouldn't have been there in 1875. The instrument enclosure
itself has a rather uncared for look about it.

Data from Chatsworth House Gardens are on the CEDA site for the period
1965-1974 so perhaps the instrument enclosure has gone.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
twitter: @TideswellWeathr

I've created an account for that CEDA site, how/where do you go to view the said data?

Thansk

Keith (Southend)

Keith Harris wrote:

On Monday, 12 August 2019 14:04:56 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
wrote:

As Climate stations are part of the official network, there's one
historic one that's easily accessible - Buxton. In the little
park behind the town hall. Norman has mentioned it a few times.
I've not been to Chatsworth House for decades but when I did go
there was an unofficial met station on the lawns just east of the
house - close to the exit. I wonder if it is still there?

Julian

Indeed. Daily data for Buxton since 1875 (and for various periods
for all manner of other places) are available at

https://catalogue.ceda.ac.uk/

You have to register but there's no charge.

The Buxton observing site is now surrounded (and partly overhung) by
trees that wouldn't have been there in 1875. The instrument
enclosure itself has a rather uncared for look about it.

Data from Chatsworth House Gardens are on the CEDA site for the
period 1965-1974 so perhaps the instrument enclosure has gone.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
twitter: @TideswellWeathr

I've created an account for that CEDA site, how/where do you go to
view the said data?

Thansk

Keith (Southend)

Hi Keith,
When you go to that site it should come up with 'catalogue search'.
Type 'midas open' (without the quotation marks) into the box and click
'search'. You might at that stage have to put in your username and
password (you will at some stage). For me that then takes me to a list
of options. For example, the second one on the list is 'Midas Open: UK
daily rainfall data, v201901'. Clicking the 'download' box on the right
brings up a list of counties. Clicking on 'Derbyshire' brings up a list
that includes Buxton. Clicking on that brings up a slightly odd-looking
menu but what you want is 'qc-version-1' Clicking on that brings up a
menu of yearly files for Buxton rainfall. It all sounds a bit more
complicated than it really is.

Incidentally, I see that the site contains data for 2 sites in
Southend, one from 1961 till 1971 and the other from 1971 till 2005.

It's a bit of a clunky interface and you have to access different
datsets for rainfall and temperature, for example, but like all of
these things once you get familiar with it it's all pretty
straightforward.

Cheers,

Norman

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
twitter: @TideswellWeathr

On Monday, 12 August 2019 19:27:24 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Keith Harris wrote:

On Monday, 12 August 2019 14:04:56 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
wrote:

As Climate stations are part of the official network, there's one
historic one that's easily accessible - Buxton. In the little
park behind the town hall. Norman has mentioned it a few times.
I've not been to Chatsworth House for decades but when I did go
there was an unofficial met station on the lawns just east of the
house - close to the exit. I wonder if it is still there?

Julian

Indeed. Daily data for Buxton since 1875 (and for various periods
for all manner of other places) are available at

https://catalogue.ceda.ac.uk/

You have to register but there's no charge.

The Buxton observing site is now surrounded (and partly overhung) by
trees that wouldn't have been there in 1875. The instrument
enclosure itself has a rather uncared for look about it.

Data from Chatsworth House Gardens are on the CEDA site for the
period 1965-1974 so perhaps the instrument enclosure has gone.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
twitter: @TideswellWeathr

I've created an account for that CEDA site, how/where do you go to
view the said data?

Thansk

Keith (Southend)

Hi Keith,
When you go to that site it should come up with 'catalogue search'.
Type 'midas open' (without the quotation marks) into the box and click
'search'. You might at that stage have to put in your username and
password (you will at some stage). For me that then takes me to a list
of options. For example, the second one on the list is 'Midas Open: UK
daily rainfall data, v201901'. Clicking the 'download' box on the right
brings up a list of counties. Clicking on 'Derbyshire' brings up a list
that includes Buxton. Clicking on that brings up a slightly odd-looking
menu but what you want is 'qc-version-1' Clicking on that brings up a
menu of yearly files for Buxton rainfall. It all sounds a bit more
complicated than it really is.

Incidentally, I see that the site contains data for 2 sites in
Southend, one from 1961 till 1971 and the other from 1971 till 2005.

It's a bit of a clunky interface and you have to access different
datsets for rainfall and temperature, for example, but like all of
these things once you get familiar with it it's all pretty
straightforward.

Cheers,

Norman

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
twitter: @TideswellWeathr

Thanks Norman, I would have struggled to know what I was looking for there. Also I will have a look at that Southend-on-Sea data.

I've saved in a text file your reply for reference.

Many many thanks

Keith (Southend)

Op maandag 12 augustus 2019 14:36:04 UTC+2 schreef :
I've not been to Chatsworth House for decades but when I did go there was an unofficial met station on the lawns just east of the house - close to the exit. I wonder if it is still there?

http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/weathe...r-station..jpg

http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/weathe...o-the-present/

("The weather is still recorded daily at 9am by a gardener at Chatsworth, and this data is accessible through ‘The British Atmospheric Data Centre’ (BADC) from 1878 to the present.")


Colin Youngs
Brussels

http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/weathe...er-station.jpg

http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/weathe...o-the-present/


Colin Youngs
Brussels

Thanks for finding these sources, Colin. A lengthy record at Chatsworth. Maybe someone should do some analysis (....Norman!).

Julian

On Monday, 12 August 2019 23:09:52 UTC+1, wrote:

http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/weathe...er-station.jpg

http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/weathe...o-the-present/


Colin Youngs
Brussels

Thanks for finding these sources, Colin. A lengthy record at Chatsworth. Maybe someone should do some analysis (....Norman!).

Julian

The models seem to be shaping up for a fine bank holiday week this August :-)
http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse...ech=384&mode=0

Keith (Southend)

On Monday, 12 August 2019 07:09:29 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Keith Harris wrote:

Last year we went to Devon just north of Tiverton. While out on a
walk I did a detour and found Liscombe (03710) at 348m.

This year we're heading to the Peaks but I can't find an official
weather station up there, which surprises me, especially given the
size of the area. Skipton used to report, although that is not
particularily high up. Is there one up there that I've missed?

Mustn't forget Norman's at Tideswell of course :-)

Keith (Southend)

The nearest one is Leek Thorncliffe (03330) which is NE of Leek, in
Staffordshire. It's at about 300m but often isn't particularly
representative of conditions in the Peak District National Park. I've
been sending OBS to the Met Office for the past 10 years. They are very
appreciative because the National Park is something of a 'black hole'
in the official observing network.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
twitter: @TideswellWeathr

Just back in from the early shift and I see lots of replies ~ many thanks to everyone.

I've just found Leek Thorncliffe on google maps street view:



Sorry for the long link :-)

I'll also have a look at the Buxton data later + we intend to go to Chatsworth, must be a bout 15 years since we last went there. Keep beat these gardeners for keeping weather records ;-)

Rain at last today in Southend-on-Sea, I'm currently 7.6mm and it's still raining.

Keith (Southend)