No-one is growing grapes in Yorkshire...


Factually incorrect

https://www.ryedalevineyards.co.uk/about

https://www.yorkshireheart.com/the-vineyard/

Not the only ones.

Graham
Penzance

On 15/01/2020 11:14, Keith Harris wrote:
On Wednesday, 15 January 2020 10:37:47 UTC, Spike wrote:

I expect the data-collectors of the group could easily say how far south
from, say, the environs of Stoke-on-Trent one would have to travel to
experience a 1.5degC increase in the climate - I'm guessing somewhere
as far as Salisbury or Chichester.

Co2 levels were high during the dinosaur period, that ended well!

Correlation is not causation! Ask any passing asteroid...;-)

Yes, we have never had it so good, well, not everyone, but at what cost, the problem is we are just guessing at how this is going forward, but we can see the direction?

You'll need a powerful magnifying glass to see the current climate
catastrophe on this graph:

https://tinyurl.com/ClimateLast15000years

--
Spike

On 19/01/2020 09:44, Spike wrote:

You'll need a powerful magnifying glass to see the current climate
catastrophe on this graph:

https://tinyurl.com/ClimateLast15000years


For anyone who doesn't already know, this is just another piece of
hackneyed flat-earther tat whose flaws have been exposed many times. See eg:

https://www.carbonbrief.org/factchec...climate-change

On Sunday, 19 January 2020 09:44:16 UTC, Spike wrote:
On 15/01/2020 11:14, Keith Harris wrote:
On Wednesday, 15 January 2020 10:37:47 UTC, Spike wrote:

I expect the data-collectors of the group could easily say how far south
from, say, the environs of Stoke-on-Trent one would have to travel to
experience a 1.5degC increase in the climate - I'm guessing somewhere
as far as Salisbury or Chichester.

Co2 levels were high during the dinosaur period, that ended well!

Correlation is not causation! Ask any passing asteroid...;-)

Yes, we have never had it so good, well, not everyone, but at what cost, the problem is we are just guessing at how this is going forward, but we can see the direction?

You'll need a powerful magnifying glass to see the current climate
catastrophe on this graph:

https://tinyurl.com/ClimateLast15000years

--
Spike

You need more than a magnifying glass to see the current climate on that graph since it stops in the year 2000.

On Friday, 17 January 2020 10:11:04 UTC, Spike wrote:


No-one is growing grapes in Yorkshire...

Spike

But they grow tea :-)

Keith (Southend)

On 19/01/2020 14:55, Keith Harris wrote:
On Friday, 17 January 2020 10:11:04 UTC, Spike wrote:


No-one is growing grapes in Yorkshire...

Spike

But they grow tea :-)

Keith (Southend)


https://twitter.com/YorkshireTea/sta...73098158256128

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
“Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, my side, and the
truth.� [Ambassador Kosh]
Posted via Mozilla Thunderbird on openSUSE Tumbleweed.

On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:11:08 +0000
Spike wrote:


Sorry, too many internet stalkers following me around, including one
or two that have turned up on this group.


That's your puffed-up ego talking, Burt. I was here long before you
decided that:

I'm getting the impression that that sort of information isn't welcome
on this group (UKSW) as it conflicts with long-held beliefs, about
which no questions are tolerated.

and came here a trolling.

On 19/01/2020 11:17, JGD wrote:
On 19/01/2020 09:44, Spike wrote:

You'll need a powerful magnifying glass to see the current climate
catastrophe on this graph:

https://tinyurl.com/ClimateLast15000years

For anyone who doesn't already know, this is just another piece of
hackneyed flat-earther tat whose flaws have been exposed many times. See eg:

https://www.carbonbrief.org/factchec...climate-change

"This modern temperature reconstruction, combined with observational
records over the past century, shows that current temperatures in
Greenland are warmer than any period in the past 2,000 years.

That said, *they are likely still cooler* than during the early part of
the current geological epoch – the Holocene – which started around
11,000 years ago."

Which is, of course, exactly what is shown in the graph you are
complaining about.

--
Spike

On 19/01/2020 18:44, 'Jim' wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:11:08 +0000
Spike wrote:

Sorry, too many internet stalkers following me around, including one
or two that have turned up on this group.

That's your puffed-up ego talking. I was here long before you
decided that:

I'm getting the impression that that sort of information isn't welcome
on this group (UKSW) as it conflicts with long-held beliefs, about
which no questions are tolerated.

and came here a trolling.

Well, 'Jim', your grip on reality really is slipping - need to blame
your friend, the troll that cross-posted this message from the radio
group. I'm sure you can guess who it might be:

Newsgroups: uk.sci.weather,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Penzance - Coolish but more sunshine
From: Oliver Charles
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:05:10 +0100
Xref: uni-berlin.de uk.sci.weather:465452 uk.radio.amateur:845484

On 22 Jun 2019 19:38:33 GMT
"Norman Lynagh" wrote:

Graham Easterling wrote:

On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 4:31:09 PM UTC+1, Nick Gardner
wrote:
On 21/06/2019 23:03, wrote:
The deep blue sky and crystal clear air brought high UV index
today. It was forecast to be high. Tomorrow it is forecast to
be very high. we shall see.

Yesterday's UV max was 7.7, today's was 6.8.

I suspect the lower UV today was because of the lack of cloud
(reflection) despite a deep blue sky just like yesterday. The
solar irradiance was also lower today with a maximum of 852 W/m²
compared to yesterday's 1083 W/m².

Depending on the number of and position of clouds, especially
fair weather clouds, this can make a big difference to solar
irradiation levels and at best can add about 1 on to the UV Index.



--
Nick Gardner
Otter Valley, Devon
20 m amsl
http://www.ottervalleyweather.me.uk

SE winds & high UV just don't go together. I notice the forecast
keeps going on about very high UV, when it's a good deal lower
during a few days late May when it reached 9 at Camborne on at
least 2 days. Classic warm sector ridge & slight mistiness that we
haven't really seen in June.

No wonder people relate high UV to temperature. Not to mention windy
condition = a big swell, some people even believe in the existence
of gale force gusts. On top of which we're set to be stuck with
Boris or Hunt.

I thought the most depressing thing watching that Greenpeace girl
(wearing a red dress & having told people on the door they were from
Greenpeace which is known never to condone violence) being attacked
by that thug, was that nobody came to her aid. These are the people
who are running the Country (not just England, but Wales, Scotland &
Cornwall).

I'm sure I'm living in some sort of virtual reality & I'll soon come
back to the real world. It's was bad enough having to put up with
Abba tribute bands

Apologies for drifting into grumpy old man mode!

Graham
Penzance


..........and I haven't heard one politician mention the current
global atmospheric CO2 concentration of around 415 ppm. That's the
most important statistic that exists at present and it's one that'll
result in huge changes to human life worldwide during the remainder
of this century. Part of me is glad that I won't be around to see it
all happen and part of me wishes that I could be around to see it all
happen. Whatever the detail, it won't be pretty :-(


You shouldn't worry about it so much. Over in uk.radio.amateur we have
a poster called Spike (his friends call him Burt) who can prove
beyond doubt that Global Warming is not happening.

I have xposted, as I'm sure he will be pleased to put your mind at rest.

Over to you, Spike.

--
Spike

In the Climate Change belief system, only the future is certain,
but the past is constantly changing.

On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 09:58:04 +0000
Spike wrote:

On 19/01/2020 18:44, 'Jim' wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:11:08 +0000
Spike wrote:

Sorry, too many internet stalkers following me around, including
one or two that have turned up on this group.

That's your puffed-up ego talking, Burt. I was here long before you
decided that:

I'm getting the impression that that sort of information isn't
welcome on this group (UKSW) as it conflicts with long-held
beliefs, about which no questions are tolerated.

and came here a trolling.

Well, 'Jim', your grip on reality really is slipping - need to blame
your friend, the troll that cross-posted this message from the radio
group. I'm sure you can guess who it might be:


snip, nothing of any importance

Yes, you came here after the crosspost, but as I said YOU came, I was
already here. So you were not followed (at least not by me) as you
claimed.

Get a grip, Burt.