Slightly off topic but was mentioned in last posts regards snow in Dumfries.
The thread began discussing Britain's Highest Village - can I add my bit,
not official but the locals of Nenthead, Cumbria think they are to

We have so far
Scotland - Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire at 1518ft
England - Flash, Staffordshire at 1560ft

Can I thrown in Nenthead, Cumbria and its hamlet of Whitehall, approx 12
houses up a cobbled street from the centre of Nenthead at 1561ft, there is
also two or three houses further out at 1653ft. These are not official
measurements but taken from OS maps of the area. Nenthead also likes to be
known as Britain's Snowiest Village, if that's possible !

--
Paul Crabtree
Brampton N.E. Cumbria 117m ASL
Climatological Station 7076

http://mysite.freeserve.com/brampton...ome/index.html

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:26:15 +0100, "Paul Crabtree"
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wrote:


We have so far
Scotland - Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire at 1518ft
England - Flash, Staffordshire at 1560ft

Can I thrown in Nenthead, Cumbria and its hamlet of Whitehall


The OS have the following view:

http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/free...tvillages.html

England: Flash (SK02640 67150) 453.8m (I make that about 1489ft)
Scotland: Wanlockhead (NS87661 12954) 424.6m (1393ft)
Wales: Garn -yr-erw (SO 23610 10110) 400.8m (1315ft)


--
Steve Loft
Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire, 1500ft (or less) asl

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:26:15 +0100, "Paul Crabtree"
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wrote:


We have so far
Scotland - Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire at 1518ft
England - Flash, Staffordshire at 1560ft

Can I thrown in Nenthead, Cumbria and its hamlet of Whitehall


The OS have the following view:

http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/free...tvillages.html

England: Flash (SK02640 67150) 453.8m (I make that about 1489ft)
Scotland: Wanlockhead (NS87661 12954) 424.6m (1393ft)
Wales: Garn -yr-erw (SO 23610 10110) 400.8m (1315ft)


the problem is not merely where you measure the height, but also how do you
define a village?

Nenthead may be marginal from that point of view

Jim Webster

the problem is not merely where you measure the height, but also how do
you
define a village?

Nenthead may be marginal from that point of view

Jim Webster

Jim

This is the problem - but it does have its own infants school and post
office -
I may have to concede if the Ordance Survey have them officially listed !!

Paul
Brampton

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:23:15 +0100, "Jim Webster"
wrote:

"Steve Loft" wrote in message

The OS have the following view:

http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/free...tvillages.html

England: Flash (SK02640 67150) 453.8m (I make that about 1489ft)
Scotland: Wanlockhead (NS87661 12954) 424.6m (1393ft)
Wales: Garn -yr-erw (SO 23610 10110) 400.8m (1315ft)

the problem is not merely where you measure the height, but also how do you
define a village?

I would have liked to say that most people would go with the Ordnance
Survey's view...the link Steve posted says this:
********************************************

The highest villages in England, Scotland and Wales are as follows:
Country Settlement Name Grid Reference Height
(M above sea level) Map
England Flash SK02640 67150 453.8 LRM 119
Scotland Wanlockhead NS87661 12954 424.6 LRM 71
Wales Garn -yr-erw SO 23610 10110 400.8 LRM 161

....The values given for Flash, Wanlockhead and Garn-yr-erw were
thought to represent a 'true' settlement or village, and those values
are therefore preferred.
******************************************

Unfortunately, I can't recooncile the grid references quoted by OS.
For Flash, it's some distance off the main streets, at the Southern
edge of a block of buildings and apparently, not the village centre
but the lowest point in the village. Not far, away a Church is
indicated (but apparently a bit higher).

For Wanlockhead, the height seems about right for the village centre
but the grid reference given seems to be an isolated building on the
mainroad through (looks like a by-pass actually). Adjacent to the "C"
in "Cemy". Weird.

--
Dave

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:33:00 +0100, Dave Ludlow
wrote:

For Wanlockhead, the height seems about right for the village centre
but the grid reference given seems to be an isolated building on the
mainroad through (looks like a by-pass actually). Adjacent to the "C"
in "Cemy". Weird.

That's us, that is Or it's very close. There are three separate
houses here, and I think the blob is supposed to represent all of us.
--
Steve Loft
Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire, ~1460ft asl

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:53:46 +0100, Steve Loft
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:33:00 +0100, Dave Ludlow
wrote:

For Wanlockhead, the height seems about right for the village centre
but the grid reference given seems to be an isolated building on the
mainroad through (looks like a by-pass actually). Adjacent to the "C"
in "Cemy". Weird.

That's us, that is Or it's very close. There are three separate
houses here, and I think the blob is supposed to represent all of us.

Now we all know where you live! Looks like it's 1410 feet on the main
road by the "Cemy". Is that the "dead" centre of the village, then?

Must be great in winter. When I worked in Buxton, I well remember many
pleasurable ploughings in my mini, through the snow on Long Hill
(1400 ft). That extra 400 feet above Buxton town made a heck of a
difference to the amounts of snow!

--
Dave

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:20:16 +0100, Paul Crabtree wrote:

the problem is not merely where you measure the height, but also
how do you define a village?

Nenthead may be marginal from that point of view

I don't think so.

This is the problem - but it does have its own infants school and
post office -

And various churches/chapels, village hall, part time surgery and pub.

Garrigill is more of a village than Nenthead, just church/chapels,
village hall, pub and sub post office.

I may have to concede if the Ordance Survey have them officially
listed !!

No correct the OS. I wonder how they classify a village? Nenthead may
have to large a population.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:50:56 +0100, Dave Ludlow
wrote:

Must be great in winter.

I'm hoping so :-) Only been here two months though.

I reckon it'll be great in summer too - not too hot!
--
Steve Loft
Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire, ~1460ft asl

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:50:56 +0100, Dave Ludlow
wrote:

Now we all know where you live! Looks like it's 1410 feet on the main
road by the "Cemy". Is that the "dead" centre of the village, then?

I've looked at the 1:25000 OS Explorer map, and there happens to be a
marked height where the lane to our house meets the main road - 432m.
As we're pretty much at the same level as the road at that point,
that's clearly what I should take as my height asl - .sig amended
correspondingly. I'm 83ft lower than I was at the start of the week

Interestingly, there's another height marked on the 1:25000 not far
away - 466m, just as you enter the village from the NE. I make this
1531ft, so presumably this is where the claimed height of the village
comes from. It's higher than *any* house in the village... I'll let
you draw your own conclusions.

Snow melting slowly in the sun now, but it's 0C in the shade, so we
may still have some left by the end of the day. Glorious day; clear,
bright and crisp.
--
Steve Loft
Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire, 1417ft asl