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What's so special about a forecast?
- it's probably the only forecast of its kind, . - it's a T+24 DAY forecast - it's a special weather situation with potentially interesting developement - it's experimental and describes the weather variations down to 3 hours. While completing the series of forecast charts for T+10 day to T+20 days, I came across the chart for 20th November 2003, which attracted my attention straight away. because of a secondary depression coming into the country from the SW which had every possibility of bringing strong winds along with it. The next step was to check the forecast 500mb-top to see what effect the surface situation would have in the upper atmosphere. On the day in question, the 00Z chart showed an upper-air, narrow trough stretching N-S about the length and width of Britain, placed just down the W Irish coast. On the surface at 00Z, the charts show a medium sized depression just to the W amd NW of Scotland with a trough southwards to the SW of Ireland. Winds over the whole country are generally from the S. South of Ireland - and to the SW of England - a secondary depression is expected to move ENE, across England, and into the North Sea to be near Holland on 21st November 2003 at 00Z. According to the charts, I can be sure that a secondary depression.will be present on or near the position indicated. What is difficult to forecast, is the strength of the wind. Among other things, the variation in actual temperature can alter the central pressure of the secondary depression. The charts do suggest that the stronger winds should be found over SW England rather than SE England., and that the secondary depression should fill more and more as it moves into the North Sea. Following the depression across the country means forecasting at short intervals. Usually 3 hour intervals don't show much change - especially when forecasts such as these are already working at "noise level". But it is just possible to pick out the position of the depression and this I have done where some clarity has been evident.. At 0600Z, rain showers should cover N, NW and W Scotland. There is the possibility of a thin belt of fine weather stretching from Ireland to NE England. Further south, rain associated with the secondary depression near S Wales and SW England should move towards the SE of England. These condition described here are only valid for the time 0600Z. An hour later, features (such as the fine weather in the north) could, accoring to past experience, change rapidly. At 1200Z, the secondary depression should form a complex LP system from S Wales (or thereabouts) to N Scotland. Strong winds should become evident over S Ireland and SW and S England. How strong, I don't know. Rainy weather can be expected over Scotland and the W of Britain. Weather deteriorates from the W over E England. At 1500Z, the secondary can be identified over the central part of S England and the central Midlands. Rain showers can be found over most of the country, but rising pressure and improving weather can be found over S Ireland. At 1800Z, the secondary should be approaching E Anglia with winds turning WSW or W over S England. Heavy rain is possible over Scotland and N Ireland. The best weather is over SW England. At 2100 Z, high pressure pushes into the SW of England and pressure rises generally over the whole country except the extreme W of Scotland. The secondary should be in the North Sea on its way to Holland and S Denmark. Fine, clear weather comes into the whole country from the SW. The descriptions I have given you are exactly what the charts show. I know that if I add my own embellishments, the forecast would certainly come off course. It is only by following the method implicitly that I can hope the forecast will have some success. Let's wait till 20th November 2003 Cheers, Keith. |
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Do you think we will be seeing any scandi or greenland high pressure
influence at the end of nov or dec? |
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