"Evert Wesker" wrote in message
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Ladies, Gentlemen
The winter (= December, January, February) data from Holland. Up to
1899 it is the so called "Labrijn reeks", after that the data from De
Bilt. The range is not homogeneous. However, it gives you a nice
idea.

1990 6.0
1989 5.6
1975 5.5
1998 5.4
1737 5.3
1796 5.3
1995 5.3
1834 5.2
1846 5.2
2000 5.0
1739 5.0
1988 5.0
1877 4.9
1822 4.9
1869 4.9
1734 4.8
1935 4.8
2002 4.8
1749 4.7
1863 4.7
1884 4.6
1957 4.6
1916 4.6
1756 4.5
1764 4.5
1825 4.5
1899 4.5
1920 4.4
1759 4.4
1724 4.4
1866 4.3
1999 4.3
1779 4.2
1967 4.2
1974 4.2
1790 4.1
1925 4.1
1948 4.1
1761 4.1
2001 4.1
1733 4.0
1730 3.9
1994 3.9
1835 3.9
1867 3.9
1923 3.9
1930 3.8
1992 3.8
1807 3.8
1817 3.8
1859 3.8
1921 3.8
1750 3.8
1824 3.8
1943 3.8
1915 3.8
1993 3.7
1912 3.7
1898 3.7
1913 3.7
1961 3.7
1949 3.7
1853 3.6
1950 3.6
1878 3.6
1910 3.6
1937 3.6
1873 3.5
1874 3.5
1976 3.5
1791 3.5
1983 3.5
1837 3.5
1852 3.5
1911 3.5
1980 3.5
1708 3.4
1735 3.4
1798 3.4
1840 3.4
1711 3.3
1812 3.3
1747 3.3
1851 3.3
1926 3.3
1736 3.3
1883 3.3
1844 3.2
1775 3.2
1828 3.2
1914 3.2
1732 3.2
1885 3.2
1927 3.2
1977 3.2
1936 3.2
1960 3.2
1972 3.2
1952 3.1
1849 3.1
1903 3.1
1773 3.1
1774 3.1
1984 3.1
1958 3.0
1973 3.0
1978 3.0
1770 3.0
1938 3.0
1713 3.0
1905 3.0
1966 3.0
1932 2.9
1882 2.9
1794 2.9
1806 2.8
1971 2.8
1819 2.8
1752 2.8
1906 2.8
1944 2.8
1714 2.7
1793 2.7
1872 2.7
1894 2.7
1939 2.7
1843 2.7
1919 2.7
1946 2.7
1962 2.7
1788 2.6
1839 2.6
1862 2.6
1783 2.6
1981 2.6
1721 2.4
1818 2.4
1928 2.4
2003 2.4
1720 2.4
1857 2.4
1902 2.4
1738 2.3
1741 2.3
1868 2.3
1968 2.3
1896 2.3
1945 2.3
1951 2.3
1772 2.3
1728 2.3
1769 2.3
1836 2.3
1892 2.3
1918 2.3
1959 2.3
1804 2.2
1965 2.2
1722 2.2
1715 2.2
1754 2.2
1991 2.2
1742 2.1
1856 2.1
1933 2.1
1719 2.1
1727 2.1
1826 2.1
1723 2.0
1833 2.0
1955 2.0
1931 2.0
1881 1.9
1753 1.9
1832 1.9
1908 1.9
1997 1.9
1710 1.9
1731 1.9
1889 1.9
1953 1.8
1954 1.8
1758 1.8
1842 1.8
1707 1.8
1922 1.8
1787 1.7
1801 1.7
1762 1.7
1782 1.7
1900 1.7
1858 1.6
1748 1.6
1876 1.6
1897 1.6
1969 1.6
1725 1.6
1864 1.6
1808 1.6
1811 1.6
1712 1.5
1745 1.5
1792 1.5
1904 1.5
1986 1.5
1987 1.5
1771 1.5
1751 1.4
1815 1.4
1890 1.4
1860 1.4
1901 1.4
1887 1.3
1743 1.3
1934 1.2
1870 1.1
1875 1.1
1797 1.1
1802 1.1
1781 1.1
1964 1.1
1982 1.1
1765 1.0
1780 1.0
1827 1.0
1893 1.0
1831 0.9
1717 0.9
1810 0.9
1861 0.9
1850 0.9
1907 0.9
1786 0.8
1909 0.8
1809 0.8
1706 0.8
1776 0.8
1816 0.8
1886 0.8
1767 0.7
1777 0.7
1813 0.7
1744 0.7
1766 0.7
1821 0.6
1829 0.5
1768 0.4
1847 0.4
1778 0.4
1718 0.4
1888 0.3
1854 0.3
1924 0.3
1879 0.3
1880 0.2
1985 0.2
1848 0.2
1956 0.2
1917 0.1
1726 0.1
1746 0.1
1865 0.1
1970 0.1
1895 0.0
1941 -0.1
1755 -0.1
1996 -0.1
1757 -0.1
1760 -0.1
1785 -0.2
1729 -0.4
1871 -0.6
1855 -0.6
1820 -0.7
1841 -0.7
1979 -0.8
1800 -1.0
1740 -1.1
1763 -1.1
1803 -1.2
1891 -1.4
1709 -1.4
1929 -1.5
1942 -1.5
1838 -1.6
1805 -1.6
1814 -1.6
1716 -1.7
1799 -1.8
1845 -1.8
1789 -1.9
1940 -1.9
1795 -2.0
1823 -2.2
1784 -2.3
1947 -2.4
1830 -3.1
1963 -3.1

Mazzel & broge / kind regards, Evert Wesker
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://come.to/wesker (redirect URL, no adv's), or
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/


I like this. It just shows the difference of being on the other side of
the North Sea. A whole winter with a mean below 0C is exceptional for us and
has only been done just 3 times. 1963, 1740 and 1684. You have a substantial
list below 0C.
I see that 1963 is your most ferocious winter, that here came in at
about -0.3 on a CET. You had a winter mean of -3.1C. I wonder how your
figure for 1740 is so much "warmer" than 1963. 1740 for us was much colder
than 1963.

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In article ,
Gavin Staples writes:

"Evert Wesker" wrote in message
...
Ladies, Gentlemen
The winter (= December, January, February) data from Holland. Up to
1899 it is the so called "Labrijn reeks", after that the data from De
Bilt. The range is not homogeneous. However, it gives you a nice
idea.

snip

I like this.

So do I, but there was no need to quote the whole 300+ lines of it.

It just shows the difference of being on the other side of
the North Sea. A whole winter with a mean below 0C is exceptional for us and
has only been done just 3 times. 1963, 1740 and 1684. You have a substantial
list below 0C.
I see that 1963 is your most ferocious winter, that here came in at
about -0.3 on a CET. You had a winter mean of -3.1C. I wonder how your
figure for 1740 is so much "warmer" than 1963. 1740 for us was much colder
than 1963.

I thought that 1740 and 1963 were thought to be about equal in terms of
CET? Unless that was for Jan-Feb only?
--
John Hall
"One half of the world cannot understand
the pleasures of the other."
From "Emma" by Jane Austen (1775-1817)

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 14:21:47 +0000, John Hall
wrote:

I thought that 1740 and 1963 were thought to be about equal in terms of
CET? Unless that was for Jan-Feb only?
--
John Hall

I took a look at the data: December 1739 wasn't very cold in The
Netherlands. Jan-Feb were about on par with 1963. That explains a
lot I think.
Next to that: The spring of 1740 (especially May) was very cold and
the summer was quite miserable as well. That explains why 1740 was
an "annus horribilis" for the farmers all over western Europe.

For the whole range (for all months) see:
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/weer/labrijn.html

NB: It is NOT homogeneous, but it gives you a very nice impression.

Mazzel & broge / kind regards, Evert Wesker
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://come.to/wesker (redirect URL, no adv's), or
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/

"Gavin Staples" schreef in bericht
...

"Evert Wesker" wrote in message
...

I like this. It just shows the difference of being on the other side
of
the North Sea. A whole winter with a mean below 0C is exceptional for us
and
has only been done just 3 times. 1963, 1740 and 1684. You have a
substantial
list below 0C.


snip The Netherlands certainly have a more continential climate than
Britain, Gavin. A few miles east can do a lot, I often compare our data with
German sites, just beyond the border. Of course the North Sea also has its
influences. I sometimes wonder how the climate on both sides of the North
Sea would change if the Sea weren't there. Oh, who knows ;-)). Pity a
life-time can be too short to discover.

Wijke
SE Flevopolder ms 3 m asl
The Netherlands
CAVOK :-) -- snowcover -- Tmin ms 4.4 C - Tc ms 0.9 C -- E 4 - 1021,9 hPa