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What would the BBC weather dolly's do if the word "MILD" was removed from
the English language.

Are they on some sort of commission for the number of times that they can
use this word in their hapless forecasts.

Forget the facts, that on occasions we are up to our necks in water, with
rivers bursting their banks with peoples property being destroyed by
torrents of muddy water surging through their homes, to say nothing on the
cost of the insurance claims, and the cost to repair or possibly rebuild
river banks and flood defences.

But the saving grace at the end of all this will be, At least it will be
"BLOODY" MILD...

I wish they would have been around in January 1963 to see just how they
would have handled that one.


I quite agree, the standard of presentation of these forecasters really
annoys me. They know sod all about the weather or even meteorology in
general. I remember a survey being done about 6 years ago to test the
meteorological knowledge of these women doing these forecasts and Ulrika
Jonsson's credentials were that she recognised rain when she saw it. The
others were not much better.
As I am from East Anglia, I long for the days of the professionals such
as Michael Hunt and David Brooks from Anglia Television. This pair had a
degree in atmospheric physics, or something a long those lines, and Michael
Hunt was a meteorologist from the RAF, in the days when weather forecasts
were taken seriously.
These days it is all based on glossy presentation, and no knowledge at
all. For example, we hardly see a decent synoptic chart. All we are expected
to do is look at some dippy woman.
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In article ,
Gavin Staples writes:


"Weatherman" wrote in message
...
What would the BBC weather dolly's do if the word "MILD" was removed from
the English language.

snip

I quite agree, the standard of presentation of these forecasters really
annoys me. They know sod all about the weather or even meteorology in
general. I remember a survey being done about 6 years ago to test the
meteorological knowledge of these women doing these forecasts and Ulrika
Jonsson's credentials were that she recognised rain when she saw it. The
others were not much better.


But Weatherman was specifically complaining about the "BBC weather
dollies". Unlike Ulrika, and most (?) other ITV and Sky weather
presenters, all the BBC women are supposed to be fully qualified,
properly trained meteorologists. Thus they are supposed to know what
they are talking about.

As I am from East Anglia, I long for the days of the professionals such
as Michael Hunt and David Brooks from Anglia Television. This pair had a
degree in atmospheric physics, or something a long those lines, and Michael
Hunt was a meteorologist from the RAF, in the days when weather forecasts
were taken seriously.
These days it is all based on glossy presentation, and no knowledge at
all. For example, we hardly see a decent synoptic chart. All we are expected
to do is look at some dippy woman.


On the BBC, I don't think that in general the presenters are any less
qualified than they used to be. But either the BBC or the Met Office (or
both) seem to have decided that the public can only cope with a "dumbed
down" forecast. (Unfortunately, as far as a substantial proportion of
the public is concerned, they may be right.)
--
John Hall

You can divide people into two categories:
those who divide people into two categories and those who don't
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Gavin.
Yes I remember Michael Hunt & David Brooks, they were brilliant. I cannot
get Anglia television anymore as we were on an old cable service at that
time and even with a high gain aerial Anglia is all but impossible to watch.
Our new cable service only offers Anglia west, even though we should come
under Anglia east.
But I thing even the Anglia forecasts have degenerated since those good old
days.
Regards. Len.

"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
...


"Weatherman" wrote in message
...
What would the BBC weather dolly's do if the word "MILD" was removed

from
the English language.

Are they on some sort of commission for the number of times that they

can
use this word in their hapless forecasts.

Forget the facts, that on occasions we are up to our necks in water,

with
rivers bursting their banks with peoples property being destroyed by
torrents of muddy water surging through their homes, to say nothing on

the
cost of the insurance claims, and the cost to repair or possibly rebuild
river banks and flood defences.

But the saving grace at the end of all this will be, At least it will be
"BLOODY" MILD...

I wish they would have been around in January 1963 to see just how they
would have handled that one.


I quite agree, the standard of presentation of these forecasters

really
annoys me. They know sod all about the weather or even meteorology in
general. I remember a survey being done about 6 years ago to test the
meteorological knowledge of these women doing these forecasts and Ulrika
Jonsson's credentials were that she recognised rain when she saw it. The
others were not much better.
As I am from East Anglia, I long for the days of the professionals

such
as Michael Hunt and David Brooks from Anglia Television. This pair had a
degree in atmospheric physics, or something a long those lines, and

Michael
Hunt was a meteorologist from the RAF, in the days when weather forecasts
were taken seriously.
These days it is all based on glossy presentation, and no knowledge at
all. For example, we hardly see a decent synoptic chart. All we are

expected
to do is look at some dippy woman.
--

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For the latest lecture in the Darwin Lecture Series in Cambridge, please
click on my site, and then click on the Darwin Lecture series link.

"I have friends in overalls whose friendship I would not swap for the

favor
of the kings of the world". ~Thomas A. Edison


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Something which everyone on this planet should be able to do.
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John yes indeed, Gavin's sweeping statement is sadly way off the mark for the
BBC presenters. They are all trained forecasters/meteorologists, indeed I have
given lectures myself to both trainees and experienced presenters in the past
couple of years !

Just because the weather is not going the way one wants it is no excuse to be
disrespectful to others without knowing all the facts.
To say they "know sod all about the weather" is basically a blatant lie and I
think an excuse is in order here ?

As for dumbing down, I agree, but it is the BBC as the paying customer who call
the tune. It is to the BBC that all complaints should be directed.

Will.
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John Hall wrote in message ...
In article ,
Gavin Staples writes:


"Weatherman" wrote in message
...
What would the BBC weather dolly's do if the word "MILD" was removed from
the English language.

snip

I quite agree, the standard of presentation of these forecasters really
annoys me. They know sod all about the weather or even meteorology in
general. I remember a survey being done about 6 years ago to test the
meteorological knowledge of these women doing these forecasts and Ulrika
Jonsson's credentials were that she recognised rain when she saw it. The
others were not much better.


But Weatherman was specifically complaining about the "BBC weather
dollies". Unlike Ulrika, and most (?) other ITV and Sky weather
presenters, all the BBC women are supposed to be fully qualified,
properly trained meteorologists. Thus they are supposed to know what
they are talking about.

As I am from East Anglia, I long for the days of the professionals such
as Michael Hunt and David Brooks from Anglia Television. This pair had a
degree in atmospheric physics, or something a long those lines, and Michael
Hunt was a meteorologist from the RAF, in the days when weather forecasts
were taken seriously.
These days it is all based on glossy presentation, and no knowledge at
all. For example, we hardly see a decent synoptic chart. All we are expected
to do is look at some dippy woman.


On the BBC, I don't think that in general the presenters are any less
qualified than they used to be. But either the BBC or the Met Office (or
both) seem to have decided that the public can only cope with a "dumbed
down" forecast. (Unfortunately, as far as a substantial proportion of
the public is concerned, they may be right.)
--
John Hall

You can divide people into two categories:
those who divide people into two categories and those who don't





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