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![]() "Weatherman" wrote in message ... What would the BBC weather dolly's do if the word "MILD" was removed from the English language. Are they on some sort of commission for the number of times that they can use this word in their hapless forecasts. Forget the facts, that on occasions we are up to our necks in water, with rivers bursting their banks with peoples property being destroyed by torrents of muddy water surging through their homes, to say nothing on the cost of the insurance claims, and the cost to repair or possibly rebuild river banks and flood defences. But the saving grace at the end of all this will be, At least it will be "BLOODY" MILD... I wish they would have been around in January 1963 to see just how they would have handled that one. I quite agree, the standard of presentation of these forecasters really annoys me. They know sod all about the weather or even meteorology in general. I remember a survey being done about 6 years ago to test the meteorological knowledge of these women doing these forecasts and Ulrika Jonsson's credentials were that she recognised rain when she saw it. The others were not much better. As I am from East Anglia, I long for the days of the professionals such as Michael Hunt and David Brooks from Anglia Television. This pair had a degree in atmospheric physics, or something a long those lines, and Michael Hunt was a meteorologist from the RAF, in the days when weather forecasts were taken seriously. These days it is all based on glossy presentation, and no knowledge at all. For example, we hardly see a decent synoptic chart. All we are expected to do is look at some dippy woman. -- ************************************************** ************************** ************************************************** * Gavin Staples. website updated regularly www.gavinstaples.com For the latest lecture in the Darwin Lecture Series in Cambridge, please click on my site, and then click on the Darwin Lecture series link. "I have friends in overalls whose friendship I would not swap for the favor of the kings of the world". ~Thomas A. Edison All outgoing emails are checked for viruses by Norton Internet Security Professional 2004. ************************************************** ************************** ************************************************** ** |
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Gavin Staples writes: "Weatherman" wrote in message ... What would the BBC weather dolly's do if the word "MILD" was removed from the English language. snip I quite agree, the standard of presentation of these forecasters really annoys me. They know sod all about the weather or even meteorology in general. I remember a survey being done about 6 years ago to test the meteorological knowledge of these women doing these forecasts and Ulrika Jonsson's credentials were that she recognised rain when she saw it. The others were not much better. But Weatherman was specifically complaining about the "BBC weather dollies". Unlike Ulrika, and most (?) other ITV and Sky weather presenters, all the BBC women are supposed to be fully qualified, properly trained meteorologists. Thus they are supposed to know what they are talking about. As I am from East Anglia, I long for the days of the professionals such as Michael Hunt and David Brooks from Anglia Television. This pair had a degree in atmospheric physics, or something a long those lines, and Michael Hunt was a meteorologist from the RAF, in the days when weather forecasts were taken seriously. These days it is all based on glossy presentation, and no knowledge at all. For example, we hardly see a decent synoptic chart. All we are expected to do is look at some dippy woman. On the BBC, I don't think that in general the presenters are any less qualified than they used to be. But either the BBC or the Met Office (or both) seem to have decided that the public can only cope with a "dumbed down" forecast. (Unfortunately, as far as a substantial proportion of the public is concerned, they may be right.) -- John Hall You can divide people into two categories: those who divide people into two categories and those who don't |
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Yes I remember Michael Hunt & David Brooks, they were brilliant. I cannot get Anglia television anymore as we were on an old cable service at that time and even with a high gain aerial Anglia is all but impossible to watch. Our new cable service only offers Anglia west, even though we should come under Anglia east. But I thing even the Anglia forecasts have degenerated since those good old days. Regards. Len. "Gavin Staples" wrote in message ... "Weatherman" wrote in message ... What would the BBC weather dolly's do if the word "MILD" was removed from the English language. Are they on some sort of commission for the number of times that they can use this word in their hapless forecasts. Forget the facts, that on occasions we are up to our necks in water, with rivers bursting their banks with peoples property being destroyed by torrents of muddy water surging through their homes, to say nothing on the cost of the insurance claims, and the cost to repair or possibly rebuild river banks and flood defences. But the saving grace at the end of all this will be, At least it will be "BLOODY" MILD... I wish they would have been around in January 1963 to see just how they would have handled that one. I quite agree, the standard of presentation of these forecasters really annoys me. They know sod all about the weather or even meteorology in general. I remember a survey being done about 6 years ago to test the meteorological knowledge of these women doing these forecasts and Ulrika Jonsson's credentials were that she recognised rain when she saw it. The others were not much better. As I am from East Anglia, I long for the days of the professionals such as Michael Hunt and David Brooks from Anglia Television. This pair had a degree in atmospheric physics, or something a long those lines, and Michael Hunt was a meteorologist from the RAF, in the days when weather forecasts were taken seriously. These days it is all based on glossy presentation, and no knowledge at all. For example, we hardly see a decent synoptic chart. All we are expected to do is look at some dippy woman. -- ************************************************** ************************** ************************************************** * Gavin Staples. website updated regularly www.gavinstaples.com For the latest lecture in the Darwin Lecture Series in Cambridge, please click on my site, and then click on the Darwin Lecture series link. "I have friends in overalls whose friendship I would not swap for the favor of the kings of the world". ~Thomas A. Edison All outgoing emails are checked for viruses by Norton Internet Security Professional 2004. ************************************************** ************************** ************************************************** ** |
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![]() ================================================== ================== This posting expresses the personal view and opinions of the author. Something which everyone on this planet should be able to do. ================================================== ================== John yes indeed, Gavin's sweeping statement is sadly way off the mark for the BBC presenters. They are all trained forecasters/meteorologists, indeed I have given lectures myself to both trainees and experienced presenters in the past couple of years ! Just because the weather is not going the way one wants it is no excuse to be disrespectful to others without knowing all the facts. To say they "know sod all about the weather" is basically a blatant lie and I think an excuse is in order here ? As for dumbing down, I agree, but it is the BBC as the paying customer who call the tune. It is to the BBC that all complaints should be directed. Will. -- " A cup is most useful when empty " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Hall wrote in message ... In article , Gavin Staples writes: "Weatherman" wrote in message ... What would the BBC weather dolly's do if the word "MILD" was removed from the English language. snip I quite agree, the standard of presentation of these forecasters really annoys me. They know sod all about the weather or even meteorology in general. I remember a survey being done about 6 years ago to test the meteorological knowledge of these women doing these forecasts and Ulrika Jonsson's credentials were that she recognised rain when she saw it. The others were not much better. But Weatherman was specifically complaining about the "BBC weather dollies". Unlike Ulrika, and most (?) other ITV and Sky weather presenters, all the BBC women are supposed to be fully qualified, properly trained meteorologists. Thus they are supposed to know what they are talking about. As I am from East Anglia, I long for the days of the professionals such as Michael Hunt and David Brooks from Anglia Television. This pair had a degree in atmospheric physics, or something a long those lines, and Michael Hunt was a meteorologist from the RAF, in the days when weather forecasts were taken seriously. These days it is all based on glossy presentation, and no knowledge at all. For example, we hardly see a decent synoptic chart. All we are expected to do is look at some dippy woman. On the BBC, I don't think that in general the presenters are any less qualified than they used to be. But either the BBC or the Met Office (or both) seem to have decided that the public can only cope with a "dumbed down" forecast. (Unfortunately, as far as a substantial proportion of the public is concerned, they may be right.) -- John Hall You can divide people into two categories: those who divide people into two categories and those who don't |
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