Well here we are mid January, and despite various predictions of storms and
cold over recent weeks, so far this winter we have had:-

1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)
No severe gales (the strongest gust so far just 52mph)
The lowest maximum temperature so far, 8.1 degrees on 29th December.

The daffodils are now in full flower.

Today has been glorious. Sat in the garden of the pub in Mousehole for
dinner, and strolled round the bay to Marazion.

Couple of pictures at www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/temp1118.html

I've lost all interest in cold weather now, just looking forward to getting
the wet-suit and boards out again in the spring.

--
Graham
Penzance

Ground frozen hard here all day, raining now. I sometimes miss Devon and
Cornwall Graham!



"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
...
Well here we are mid January, and despite various predictions of storms
and
cold over recent weeks, so far this winter we have had:-

1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)
No severe gales (the strongest gust so far just 52mph)
The lowest maximum temperature so far, 8.1 degrees on 29th December.

The daffodils are now in full flower.

Today has been glorious. Sat in the garden of the pub in Mousehole for
dinner, and strolled round the bay to Marazion.

Couple of pictures at www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/temp1118.html

I've lost all interest in cold weather now, just looking forward to
getting
the wet-suit and boards out again in the spring.

--
Graham
Penzance






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"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
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1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)

Hi, Graham,

Sorry, but 0.0C is not a frost. That is the melting point, not freezing
point. A frost needs a negative sign in front of the number.

ATB, from a cold Copley where the daffodils flower in April, which is
how it should be!

--
Ken Cook, Copley (5miles north of Barnard Castle), County Durham.
830ft
http://mysite.freeserve.com/copley
(MO climat. site updated before 10Z and 19Z daily)
kencookATcopleydurham.freeserve.co.uk


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"Ken Cook" wrote in message
...
"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
...

1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)

Hi, Graham,

Sorry, but 0.0C is not a frost. That is the melting point, not freezing
point. A frost needs a negative sign in front of the number.

I was going to make the same point. Curiously, when I was an observer
at an auxiliary synoptic station decades ago, the accepted way round
this was to report -0.0 if the meniscus was marginally short of the zero
line, but not by enough to call it -0.1. After a long interval, when I
became responsible for a climatological station I did this, and had it
sent back as an error (this was when they still sent back an error
form and asked for your comments). Apparently the computer is not
programmed to accept -0.0. Under these circumstances I now
report -0.1.

Philip Eden

I found my daffs today !
The stems are now 2 inches above ground.
Snowdrops have just opened though.
Enjoy the sun, Mousehole is a brilliant spot.

Not used my sledge yet this winter (unlike last year), but I will grin

From a now cold and frosty Haytor,

Will.
--

Graham Easterling wrote in message ...
Well here we are mid January, and despite various predictions of storms and
cold over recent weeks, so far this winter we have had:-

1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)
No severe gales (the strongest gust so far just 52mph)
The lowest maximum temperature so far, 8.1 degrees on 29th December.

The daffodils are now in full flower.

Today has been glorious. Sat in the garden of the pub in Mousehole for
dinner, and strolled round the bay to Marazion.

Couple of pictures at www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/temp1118.html

I've lost all interest in cold weather now, just looking forward to getting
the wet-suit and boards out again in the spring.

--
Graham
Penzance

We must when comparing our locations bear in mind the altitude. Graham in
Penzance does not give his altitude but I take it to be close to sea level.
It is better to compare Will's location around a 1000 feet with Ken's site
at 830 feet. Also you have to bear in mind one's proximity to high ground.
For instance some quite low lying locations in the Lake District have a very
high annual rainfall.
There have been several occasions this winter when if I was the same height
as Will on Dartmoor I would have seen snow. However there is no doubt that
these days there is a tendency for it to turn mild after an average or
rather cold day. Perhaps one of the greatest changes is the scenario of a
strong cold front or back bent occlusion moving south over Britain sometimes
turning to snow and giving a cover. The parent low having moved to
Scandinavia with.a very cold arctic airstream. Good examples being in 1953
and 1955. This rarely happens now and troughing to the west of the low often
develops a cut off low to the west of Iceland preventing a full blast and
making for a longer sea track. It is a lot to do with sea surface
temperatures being higher.
Note that in 1888 ice came down south of the Faeroes and even in 1968
Iceland was surrounded by ice.

Ian Currie
www.Frostedearth.com





"Ken Cook" wrote in message
...
"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
...

1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)

Hi, Graham,

Sorry, but 0.0C is not a frost. That is the melting point, not freezing
point. A frost needs a negative sign in front of the number.

ATB, from a cold Copley where the daffodils flower in April, which is
how it should be!

--
Ken Cook, Copley (5miles north of Barnard Castle), County Durham.
830ft
http://mysite.freeserve.com/copley
(MO climat. site updated before 10Z and 19Z daily)
kencookATcopleydurham.freeserve.co.uk

"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
...

"Ken Cook" wrote in message
...
"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
...

1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)

Hi, Graham,

Sorry, but 0.0C is not a frost. That is the melting point, not freezing
point. A frost needs a negative sign in front of the number.

I was going to make the same point. Curiously, when I was an observer
at an auxiliary synoptic station decades ago, the accepted way round
this was to report -0.0 if the meniscus was marginally short of the zero
line, but not by enough to call it -0.1. After a long interval, when I
became responsible for a climatological station I did this, and had it
sent back as an error (this was when they still sent back an error
form and asked for your comments). Apparently the computer is not
programmed to accept -0.0. Under these circumstances I now
report -0.1.

Philip Eden



Didn't it get coded as 50?




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"Will" wrote in message
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I found my daffs today !
The stems are now 2 inches above ground.
Snowdrops have just opened though.
Enjoy the sun, Mousehole is a brilliant spot.

Not used my sledge yet this winter (unlike last year), but I will grin

From a now cold and frosty Haytor,

Will.
--

Graham Easterling wrote in message ...
Well here we are mid January, and despite various predictions of storms
and
cold over recent weeks, so far this winter we have had:-

1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)
No severe gales (the strongest gust so far just 52mph)
The lowest maximum temperature so far, 8.1 degrees on 29th December.

The daffodils are now in full flower.

Today has been glorious. Sat in the garden of the pub in Mousehole for
dinner, and strolled round the bay to Marazion.

Couple of pictures at www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/temp1118.html

I've lost all interest in cold weather now, just looking forward to
getting
the wet-suit and boards out again in the spring.

--
Graham
Penzance




Haven't had the sledge or the XC skis out this winter - still have them from
living in NE Scotland in the 80's when ewe were gauranteed 18" snow for a
few weeks in Jan!)(c.f .past two winters 1 day each winter in E Yorks!)




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and in Torquay...

Some Daffs are about 3in now (forming flower)
Snowdrops have leaves but not open yet
Tulips About 2in from ground

Yer, Started messing with the garden today in a short sleeve shirt no less!!

All the best

Gary
Torquay
Spring is coming!!



"Will" wrote in message
...
I found my daffs today !
The stems are now 2 inches above ground.
Snowdrops have just opened though.
Enjoy the sun, Mousehole is a brilliant spot.

Not used my sledge yet this winter (unlike last year), but I will grin

From a now cold and frosty Haytor,

Will.
--

Graham Easterling wrote in message ...
Well here we are mid January, and despite various predictions of storms
and
cold over recent weeks, so far this winter we have had:-

1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)
No severe gales (the strongest gust so far just 52mph)
The lowest maximum temperature so far, 8.1 degrees on 29th December.

The daffodils are now in full flower.

Today has been glorious. Sat in the garden of the pub in Mousehole for
dinner, and strolled round the bay to Marazion.

Couple of pictures at www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/temp1118.html

I've lost all interest in cold weather now, just looking forward to
getting
the wet-suit and boards out again in the spring.

--
Graham
Penzance

Point taken about the frost.

Of course, the actual minimum temperature was -0.01 degrees!

--
Graham

"Trevor Appleton" trevor@nospamweatherdot4dinternetdocodotuk wrote in
message ...

"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
...

"Ken Cook" wrote in message
...
"Graham Easterling" wrote in
message
...

1 air frost (0.0 degrees!)

Hi, Graham,

Sorry, but 0.0C is not a frost. That is the melting point, not
freezing
point. A frost needs a negative sign in front of the number.

I was going to make the same point. Curiously, when I was an observer
at an auxiliary synoptic station decades ago, the accepted way round
this was to report -0.0 if the meniscus was marginally short of the zero
line, but not by enough to call it -0.1. After a long interval, when I
became responsible for a climatological station I did this, and had it
sent back as an error (this was when they still sent back an error
form and asked for your comments). Apparently the computer is not
programmed to accept -0.0. Under these circumstances I now
report -0.1.

Philip Eden



Didn't it get coded as 50?




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