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![]() ================================================== ================== This posting expresses the personal view and opinions of the author. Something which everyone on this planet should be able to do. ================================================== ================== Issued 1715 22/01/04 Models are still rock-solid on the lengthy cold spell, confidence still 90%. Rogue GFS runs now come into line. (One should never ever be fooled by runs from one model that go against an ensemble signal, particularly if that signal is dynamically sound and backed up by other model runs). Detail still elusive but it now looks like the "dire, doom and gloom scenario" I talked about last night is **more likely** (ie NOT CERTAIN) with the ridge building further west. People should be prepared for some severe wintry weather next week, especially in the north, down the east coast and over all high ground. Drifting could be bad in northern hilly areas and some places could get cut off with obvious threats to livestock and the elderly. On Monday there is still a chance (50%) of a spell of rain in the SW and other low ground in the south with possible blizzards above 250m and maybe now snow getting into Wales and the Midlands. This will have to be watched. **IF** this low comes off the cold spell starts in lowland southern Britain on Tuesday, ie delayed by a day to get the low out of the way. No sign of the end of the cold spell but my issued trend remains valid. Wintry cheers, Will. -- " A cup is most useful when empty " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Thanks for the update Will, though I agree with Keith's post earlier.
Tom Danbury, Essex (107m) |
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![]() Tom wrote in message ... Thanks for the update Will, though I agree with Keith's post earlier. Tom Danbury, Essex (107m) Fair enough, nothing is certain. But this is the most wintry forecast situation I have seen this winter and maybe even last, IIRC. It has everything going for it e.g., warm advection north-northwestwards to west of Greenland, a cold eastern Europe and Scandinavia, a SST pattern that does not favour over strong Atlantic baroclinicity, solid ensemble support, even the time of year ! Will. -- " A cup is most useful when empty " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:24:28 -0000, "Will"
wrote: Drifting could be bad in northern hilly areas and some places could get cut off with obvious threats to livestock and the elderly. Will, it's the youngerly that concerns me at the moment i.e. my daughter's new born baby, in a single glazed flat. So while on the one hand I am still in denial about the doom and gloom scenario (thinking that's the only way it'll ever happen!), on the other hand I've been warning her to be prepared for the worst, checking their heating is sufficient and with auxilary sources available too (before the shops sell out). This is why your occasional forecasts of *potential* doom and gloom are invaluable - they allow precautions to be taken well in advance, even if, in the end, they sometimes don't come off as anticipated. Keep up the good work! Cheers -- Dave |
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BTW, Will you really know how to cheer ME up. :-(
Just for that, you're NOT on my Xmas card list this coming year (Ok you weren't on it last year, but you ain't this year either!). -- Rob Overfield Hull; 3m ASL http://www.astrosport02.karoo.net/YorkshireWeather/ "Will" wrote in message ... Tom wrote in message ... Thanks for the update Will, though I agree with Keith's post earlier. Tom Danbury, Essex (107m) Fair enough, nothing is certain. But this is the most wintry forecast situation I have seen this winter and maybe even last, IIRC. It has everything going for it e.g., warm advection north-northwestwards to west of Greenland, a cold eastern Europe and Scandinavia, a SST pattern that does not favour over strong Atlantic baroclinicity, solid ensemble support, even the time of year ! Will. -- " A cup is most useful when empty " -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- |
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Will wrote:
Drifting could be bad in northern hilly areas and some places could get cut off with obvious threats to livestock and the elderly. On Monday there is still a chance (50%) of a spell of rain in the SW and other low ground in the south with possible blizzards above 250m and maybe now snow getting into Wales and the Midlands. Thanks for the update, Will. I may be only at 235m but I will not take any chances. Fodder ready for the sheep and camera battery on charge. -- Howard Neil |
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I must admit my doubts were coming from those GFS runs, however, will
it actually get cold enough down here? Monday looks like rain, with a possible sleet/snow event on the back of that low. Interesting how that low that GFS had predicted for a few days is now on the UKMO run. Maybe someones looking down on me??.... We've been having some building work done and have been open right through into a new conservatory. Also our heating boiler is not functioning correctly, so the house is cold. Tomorrow (Friday) the patio door between the kitchen and conservatory is going in and the heating is being fixed. Maybe someone 'up there' has been waiting for me to get back in the warm, as it were, before throwing winter around :-) Keith (Southend) ******************************** 'Weather Home & Abroad' http://www.southendweather.net ******************************** COL Station for Southend-on-Sea http://www.wunderground.com/weathers...p?ID=IESSEXSO1 ******************************** Reply to: kreh'at'southendweather'dot'net All mail scanned for virus's using Norton 2003 On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:47:48 -0000, "Tom" wrote: Thanks for the update Will, though I agree with Keith's post earlier. Tom Danbury, Essex (107m) |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:10:27 -0000, "Will"
wrote: Tom wrote in message ... Thanks for the update Will, though I agree with Keith's post earlier. Tom Danbury, Essex (107m) Fair enough, nothing is certain. But this is the most wintry forecast situation I have seen this winter and maybe even last, IIRC. It has everything going for it e.g., warm advection north-northwestwards to west of Greenland, a cold eastern Europe and Scandinavia, a SST pattern that does not favour over strong Atlantic baroclinicity, solid ensemble support, even the time of year ! I guess next week is, statistically, the coldest week of the year. What date is the actual coldest, I wonder. JPG Will. |
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"Will" wrote here on 22 Jan 2004:
snip On Monday there is still a chance (50%) of a spell of rain in the SW and other low ground in the south with possible blizzards above 250m and maybe now snow getting into Wales and the Midlands. This will have to be watched. **IF** this low comes off the cold spell starts in lowland southern Britain on Tuesday, ie delayed by a day to get the low out of the way. snip Thank you for the warning, Will. I may need to travel to Ludlow early next week, too - and the A4117 over Clee Hill rises to over 370m, so it may be that I have to delay - that road was temporarily closed by snow a couple of weeks ago, and this sounds as though it could be significantly worse. -- Above address *is* valid - but snip spamtrap to get me to *read*! Support the world's oldest motorsport venue! http://www.shelsley-walsh.co.uk/future.html |
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