what are you going on about
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the outlook looks snowy to me,what do you mean winds backing to the
west,what charts are you looking at then
"James Brown" wrote in message
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Looking at the charts I have to agree with Will that it doesn't look
much more a day or so of cold winds. The 'clipper' low for Sunday looks
like holding back the advance of the 528 air for S. Wales and the south
of England. Then the N or NNW'lys come across water of 10C. So could be
down to single figures by then, albeit the sun is getting stronger. But
then several models, most notably the GFS develops a more pronounced low
in the North Sea which has the effect of backing the winds into the west
for southern parts - again off 10- 11C water.

It's possible I suppose that by the end of the week the wind my back to
the SE, but will the near continent be that cold by then to affect the
encroaching depressions?

So altogether, not holding out much hope for the south - but as a snow
lover I will be pleasantly surprised if something white does appear!

James
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James Brown

Looking at the charts I have to agree with Will that it doesn't look
much more a day or so of cold winds. The 'clipper' low for Sunday looks
like holding back the advance of the 528 air for S. Wales and the south
of England. Then the N or NNW'lys come across water of 10C. So could be
down to single figures by then, albeit the sun is getting stronger. But
then several models, most notably the GFS develops a more pronounced low
in the North Sea which has the effect of backing the winds into the west
for southern parts - again off 10- 11C water.

It's possible I suppose that by the end of the week the wind my back to
the SE, but will the near continent be that cold by then to affect the
encroaching depressions?

So altogether, not holding out much hope for the south - but as a snow
lover I will be pleasantly surprised if something white does appear!

James
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James Brown

"James Brown" wrote in message
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Looking at the charts I have to agree with Will that it doesn't look
much more a day or so of cold winds.

Where did Will say that?

Victor

"James Brown" wrote in message
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So altogether, not holding out much hope for the south - but as a snow
lover I will be pleasantly surprised if something white does appear!

Well, I see plenty of low level convergence on Monday as the low runs into
the Southeast which will just add to the cold air advection from the North.
Plus the rainfall intensity is very heavy (according to the GFS) which will
induce a drag effect and with surface temps at around 1-2c it won't take
much to turn it to snow. I'd say the Southeast has a higher chance than many
might fear.

A

where abouts are you from James


"James Brown" wrote in message
...
Looking at the charts I have to agree with Will that it doesn't look
much more a day or so of cold winds. The 'clipper' low for Sunday looks
like holding back the advance of the 528 air for S. Wales and the south
of England. Then the N or NNW'lys come across water of 10C. So could be
down to single figures by then, albeit the sun is getting stronger. But
then several models, most notably the GFS develops a more pronounced low
in the North Sea which has the effect of backing the winds into the west
for southern parts - again off 10- 11C water.

It's possible I suppose that by the end of the week the wind my back to
the SE, but will the near continent be that cold by then to affect the
encroaching depressions?

So altogether, not holding out much hope for the south - but as a snow
lover I will be pleasantly surprised if something white does appear!

James
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James Brown

In message , Andrew Bond
writes

"James Brown" wrote in message
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So altogether, not holding out much hope for the south - but as a snow
lover I will be pleasantly surprised if something white does appear!

Well, I see plenty of low level convergence on Monday as the low runs into
the Southeast which will just add to the cold air advection from the North.
Plus the rainfall intensity is very heavy (according to the GFS) which will
induce a drag effect and with surface temps at around 1-2c it won't take
much to turn it to snow. I'd say the Southeast has a higher chance than many
might fear.

A



But it is a bit borderline even there Andrew - will the 528 air have
reached there in time for the convergence? And in any case. the low may
run a little further south anyway.

J.
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James Brown

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Blizzards writes
what are you going on about
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I was looking for example at:

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the west wind on the south of the depression is dragging milder air back
into the west and south of Wales.

Interestingly the GFS point tables for S. Wales (Try St Athens station)
never show a freezing minimum for the whole period let alone maximum!

James
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James Brown

In article ,
James Brown writes:
Looking at the charts I have to agree with Will that it doesn't look
much more a day or so of cold winds.
big snip

You seem to have picked up a very different impression from what Will
has posted from the one that I got.
--
John Hall

"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."
Oscar Wilde

In message , John Hall
writes
In article ,
James Brown writes:
Looking at the charts I have to agree with Will that it doesn't look
much more a day or so of cold winds.
big snip

You seem to have picked up a very different impression from what Will
has posted from the one that I got.

Hi John,

I think I am referring primarily to his reference to the potential for
snow, but I am perhaps being biased by 17 years of experience of coastal
climate in S. Wales - whereas perhaps up on Haytor things will be very
different. I promise to re-visit this thread when then is now - if you
see what I mean!

Cheers,
James

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James Brown

"John Hall" wrote in message
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In article ,
James Brown writes:
Looking at the charts I have to agree with Will that it doesn't look
much more a day or so of cold winds.
big snip

You seem to have picked up a very different impression from what Will
has posted from the one that I got.

Indeed. And his latest update goes for a greater chance of the
'dire' scenario than first predicted, with little chance of a breakdown
before next Saturday.

Col
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Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
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