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I have to agree. In modern times Arctic\Northerlies have much promise but
never deliver... it just never gets cold enough.
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Okay, so this has come up before within other threads, but I really
cannot see WHY people are getting so excited about this potential
'cold' weather and snow.

As far as I can see we're just going to be in a chilly northerly,
nothing special about that.

Now IF we were going to have a real nice Scandinavian High with a long
easterly draw from a far below sub zero continent THEN I might be
interested, but as it is and after looking at the *speculative* charts
and warnings here, I simply don't see anything to jump up and down
about.

Or is all this mostly driven by met office over-reaction (as usual!)
and media induced hype?

Or maybe it's equally because of the fact that this country so rarely
gets any snow these days that even an inch or two is a main event?

I'm more than welcome to be convinced otherwise, as I too love a good
blizzard. I'll happily eat my words if I'm wrong.




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But i remember the 2 day N'ly spell at the end of last Jan when I had 6
inches of level snow and 6 ft drifts - snow was still on the ground (albeit
patchy) 2 weeks after the first falls....and that's at sea level in SE
Lincolnshire...

Paul
"danny" wrote in message
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I have to agree. In modern times Arctic\Northerlies have much promise but
never deliver... it just never gets cold enough.
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"max" wrote in message
...
Okay, so this has come up before within other threads, but I really
cannot see WHY people are getting so excited about this potential
'cold' weather and snow.

As far as I can see we're just going to be in a chilly northerly,
nothing special about that.

Now IF we were going to have a real nice Scandinavian High with a long
easterly draw from a far below sub zero continent THEN I might be
interested, but as it is and after looking at the *speculative* charts
and warnings here, I simply don't see anything to jump up and down
about.

Or is all this mostly driven by met office over-reaction (as usual!)
and media induced hype?

Or maybe it's equally because of the fact that this country so rarely
gets any snow these days that even an inch or two is a main event?

I'm more than welcome to be convinced otherwise, as I too love a good
blizzard. I'll happily eat my words if I'm wrong.





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"Paul Freeman" wrote in message
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But i remember the 2 day N'ly spell at the end of last Jan when I had 6
inches of level snow and 6 ft drifts - snow was still on the ground (albeit
patchy) 2 weeks after the first falls....and that's at sea level in SE
Lincolnshire...


You will never convince Danny it is possible.
The SST's are too high you see.......

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Hi Paul,
Obviously living in Lincolnshire puts a different perspective on things.
Maybe I should have said Norterlies don't cut if for most of England, say
90%.... only on an extremely local scale...e.g Eastern coastal, or just
inland of, areas.
Lincolnshire must be a great place to live on a Northerly.
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"Paul Freeman" wrote in message
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But i remember the 2 day N'ly spell at the end of last Jan when I had 6
inches of level snow and 6 ft drifts - snow was still on the ground

(albeit
patchy) 2 weeks after the first falls....and that's at sea level in SE
Lincolnshire...

Paul
"danny" wrote in message
...
I have to agree. In modern times Arctic\Northerlies have much promise

but
never deliver... it just never gets cold enough.
---------------------------------------------------------
"max" wrote in message
...
Okay, so this has come up before within other threads, but I really
cannot see WHY people are getting so excited about this potential
'cold' weather and snow.

As far as I can see we're just going to be in a chilly northerly,
nothing special about that.

Now IF we were going to have a real nice Scandinavian High with a long
easterly draw from a far below sub zero continent THEN I might be
interested, but as it is and after looking at the *speculative* charts
and warnings here, I simply don't see anything to jump up and down
about.

Or is all this mostly driven by met office over-reaction (as usual!)
and media induced hype?

Or maybe it's equally because of the fact that this country so rarely
gets any snow these days that even an inch or two is a main event?

I'm more than welcome to be convinced otherwise, as I too love a good
blizzard. I'll happily eat my words if I'm wrong.







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In article ,
danny writes:
Obviously living in Lincolnshire puts a different perspective on things.
Maybe I should have said Norterlies don't cut if for most of England, say
90%.... only on an extremely local scale...e.g Eastern coastal, or just
inland of, areas.
Lincolnshire must be a great place to live on a Northerly.


But the spell that Paul referred to also produced about 3 inches in
Farnborough, Hants, which is nowhere near the east coast.
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Something which everyone on this planet should be able to do.
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Northerlies climatologically give snow showers on Dartmoor as well Danny, and I
have the data at work to prove it !

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danny wrote in message . ..
Hi Paul,
Obviously living in Lincolnshire puts a different perspective on things.
Maybe I should have said Norterlies don't cut if for most of England, say
90%.... only on an extremely local scale...e.g Eastern coastal, or just
inland of, areas.
Lincolnshire must be a great place to live on a Northerly.
--------------------------------------------------------

"Paul Freeman" wrote in message
...
But i remember the 2 day N'ly spell at the end of last Jan when I had 6
inches of level snow and 6 ft drifts - snow was still on the ground

(albeit
patchy) 2 weeks after the first falls....and that's at sea level in SE
Lincolnshire...

Paul
"danny" wrote in message
...
I have to agree. In modern times Arctic\Northerlies have much promise

but
never deliver... it just never gets cold enough.
---------------------------------------------------------
"max" wrote in message
...
Okay, so this has come up before within other threads, but I really
cannot see WHY people are getting so excited about this potential
'cold' weather and snow.

As far as I can see we're just going to be in a chilly northerly,
nothing special about that.

Now IF we were going to have a real nice Scandinavian High with a long
easterly draw from a far below sub zero continent THEN I might be
interested, but as it is and after looking at the *speculative* charts
and warnings here, I simply don't see anything to jump up and down
about.

Or is all this mostly driven by met office over-reaction (as usual!)
and media induced hype?

Or maybe it's equally because of the fact that this country so rarely
gets any snow these days that even an inch or two is a main event?

I'm more than welcome to be convinced otherwise, as I too love a good
blizzard. I'll happily eat my words if I'm wrong.









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My location certainly is good in N'ly - on the occasion referred to I
travelled 12 miles to the west to go to work and there was just a mere
dusting of snow...

Paul
"danny" wrote in message
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Hi Paul,
Obviously living in Lincolnshire puts a different perspective on things.
Maybe I should have said Norterlies don't cut if for most of England, say
90%.... only on an extremely local scale...e.g Eastern coastal, or just
inland of, areas.
Lincolnshire must be a great place to live on a Northerly.
--------------------------------------------------------

"Paul Freeman" wrote in message
...
But i remember the 2 day N'ly spell at the end of last Jan when I had 6
inches of level snow and 6 ft drifts - snow was still on the ground

(albeit
patchy) 2 weeks after the first falls....and that's at sea level in SE
Lincolnshire...

Paul
"danny" wrote in message
...
I have to agree. In modern times Arctic\Northerlies have much promise

but
never deliver... it just never gets cold enough.
---------------------------------------------------------
"max" wrote in message
...
Okay, so this has come up before within other threads, but I really
cannot see WHY people are getting so excited about this potential
'cold' weather and snow.

As far as I can see we're just going to be in a chilly northerly,
nothing special about that.

Now IF we were going to have a real nice Scandinavian High with a

long
easterly draw from a far below sub zero continent THEN I might be
interested, but as it is and after looking at the *speculative*

charts
and warnings here, I simply don't see anything to jump up and down
about.

Or is all this mostly driven by met office over-reaction (as usual!)
and media induced hype?

Or maybe it's equally because of the fact that this country so

rarely
gets any snow these days that even an inch or two is a main event?

I'm more than welcome to be convinced otherwise, as I too love a

good
blizzard. I'll happily eat my words if I'm wrong.









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They are not counting on Met Office model because they don't want to get
their hopes up.

Stan
"InMyTree" wrote in message
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I'm no expert when it comes to weather, but I do enjoy a good cold spell

and
I've been following the discussion on here and on TWO since someone

noticed
this run..

The GFS has been up and down so many times now I really have no confidence
in it.. whatever happens next week it will have predicted it at some

point..

Early yesterday everyone thought the cold spell was going to collapse,

then
it got progressively more cold throughout the day and now its seems like

its
collapsing again.. same happened the day before.. I think we're just going
to have to wait and see..

A lot of people that know more than I do keep discounting the UKMO charts,
but it seems to me at least that these charts have been pretty

consistant..
why do people treat the GFS as gospel? Past performance?


"Brendan DJ Murphy" wrote in message
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There is the potential for the coming week to be one of the most

severe
we have had for a long
long time.

Are you still convinced of that given the recent runs?
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Brendan DJ Murphy
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