Hi all,

I see a general theme on here that anywhere south of the M4 is likely to see
any snow and I was just wondering why people seem to be ignoring the
features in these charts? I am always learning and I'm not in anyway
suggesting that we shouldn't be ignoring them but I was wondering why:

T+48 : Monday night

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack1.gif

Shows a cold front moving south over the UK introducing the coldest of the
week's air over the whole UK. But is it just a temperature contrast or will
the front be weather-producing? How can you tell?

T+72: Tuesday night

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack2.gif

Within the coldest air, the charts now show a synotpic feature (warm front /
cold front) moving over the south-west and a trough over the south-east.
Again, will these be weather-producing?

T+96: Wednesday

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack3.gif

Complex area of low pressure covers the UK with trough over teh south coast
and channel with pool of sub-510dm air to the far south-east.

I'm aware that these features are subjectively analysed by the
forecaster but how can we tell if these features are likely to produce snow
over the bulk of the UK? Seems to be we could all see snow over the coming
days...

Willing to be corrected,

Jeremy Handcomb
3rd Year Met. Student
Reading

At the beginning of this message, I meant that it seems the newsgroup is
suggesting areas to the south of the M$ are UNlikely to see any snow. Got a
bit confused!

Jeremy (not Chris)

"Chris Handscomb" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I see a general theme on here that anywhere south of the M4 is likely to
see
any snow and I was just wondering why people seem to be ignoring the
features in these charts? I am always learning and I'm not in anyway
suggesting that we shouldn't be ignoring them but I was wondering why:

T+48 : Monday night

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack1.gif

Shows a cold front moving south over the UK introducing the coldest of the
week's air over the whole UK. But is it just a temperature contrast or
will
the front be weather-producing? How can you tell?

T+72: Tuesday night

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack2.gif

Within the coldest air, the charts now show a synotpic feature (warm front
/
cold front) moving over the south-west and a trough over the south-east.
Again, will these be weather-producing?

T+96: Wednesday

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack3.gif

Complex area of low pressure covers the UK with trough over teh south
coast
and channel with pool of sub-510dm air to the far south-east.

I'm aware that these features are subjectively analysed by the
forecaster but how can we tell if these features are likely to produce
snow
over the bulk of the UK? Seems to be we could all see snow over the coming
days...

Willing to be corrected,

Jeremy Handcomb
3rd Year Met. Student
Reading

"Chris Handscomb" wrote in message
...
At the beginning of this message, I meant that it seems the newsgroup is
suggesting areas to the south of the M$ are UNlikely to see any snow. Got
a
bit confused!

I was wondering if the M$ referred to the new toll motorway given the
charges! In my location (St Albans) a trough or similar feature is generally
required to generate significant snow as we are too far from the east coast
for heavy showers to reach us. The latest charts suggest that the chance of
this happening is lower than 24hrs ago.

Alan

Simple, it happens almost every winter. Everywhere to the North and West of
London seems to get snow while the far South and South East just get rain.
I suspect the top of the Downs and other high ground will get some wet snow
while the back edge of the cold front may produce some sleet at lower
levels. If it were the 80's then maybe it would all be snow, but
unfortunately things have changed somewhat over the years.

Shaun Pudwell.

"Alan Gardiner" wrote in message
...

"Chris Handscomb" wrote in message
...
At the beginning of this message, I meant that it seems the newsgroup is
suggesting areas to the south of the M$ are UNlikely to see any snow.
Got
a
bit confused!

I was wondering if the M$ referred to the new toll motorway given the
charges! In my location (St Albans) a trough or similar feature is
generally
required to generate significant snow as we are too far from the east
coast
for heavy showers to reach us. The latest charts suggest that the chance
of
this happening is lower than 24hrs ago.

Alan

"Shaun Pudwell" wrote in message
...
Simple, it happens almost every winter. Everywhere to the North and West
of
London seems to get snow while the far South and South East just get rain.
I suspect the top of the Downs and other high ground will get some wet
snow
while the back edge of the cold front may produce some sleet at lower
levels. If it were the 80's then maybe it would all be snow, but
unfortunately things have changed somewhat over the years.


What about last January then?

Victor

I think most of us will need a snow machine!
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"Chris Handscomb" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I see a general theme on here that anywhere south of the M4 is likely to
see
any snow and I was just wondering why people seem to be ignoring the
features in these charts? I am always learning and I'm not in anyway
suggesting that we shouldn't be ignoring them but I was wondering why:

T+48 : Monday night

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack1.gif

Shows a cold front moving south over the UK introducing the coldest of the
week's air over the whole UK. But is it just a temperature contrast or
will
the front be weather-producing? How can you tell?

T+72: Tuesday night

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack2.gif

Within the coldest air, the charts now show a synotpic feature (warm front
/
cold front) moving over the south-west and a trough over the south-east.
Again, will these be weather-producing?

T+96: Wednesday

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack3.gif

Complex area of low pressure covers the UK with trough over teh south
coast
and channel with pool of sub-510dm air to the far south-east.

I'm aware that these features are subjectively analysed by the
forecaster but how can we tell if these features are likely to produce
snow
over the bulk of the UK? Seems to be we could all see snow over the coming
days...

Willing to be corrected,

Jeremy Handcomb
3rd Year Met. Student
Reading

Not true last year.. in fact it was the exact opposite..

"Shaun Pudwell" wrote in message
...
Simple, it happens almost every winter. Everywhere to the North and West
of
London seems to get snow while the far South and South East just get rain.
I suspect the top of the Downs and other high ground will get some wet
snow
while the back edge of the cold front may produce some sleet at lower
levels. If it were the 80's then maybe it would all be snow, but
unfortunately things have changed somewhat over the years.

Shaun Pudwell.

"Alan Gardiner" wrote in message
...

"Chris Handscomb" wrote in message
...
At the beginning of this message, I meant that it seems the newsgroup
is
suggesting areas to the south of the M$ are UNlikely to see any snow.
Got
a
bit confused!

I was wondering if the M$ referred to the new toll motorway given the
charges! In my location (St Albans) a trough or similar feature is
generally
required to generate significant snow as we are too far from the east
coast
for heavy showers to reach us. The latest charts suggest that the chance
of
this happening is lower than 24hrs ago.

Alan

I recall the winds having an Easterly component last year. We still only
had the very slightest covering here, not even enough to make a snowball.
I've lived here in Warden Bay, Isle-of-Sheppey for four years and the most
snow we've had is 1cm and even that was gone by mid morning. If the winds
are from the North then East Anglia, Essex, some parts of London, most areas
to the North and West of London, West Kent and possibly the very far Eastern
extremity of Kent will get snow. If I see significant snow here I'll be
very surprised, pleased but surprised.

Perhaps Darren Prescott can elaborate on when the last significant snow fall
was in this part of the world, I suspect January 1997.

Shaun Pudwell,
Warden Bay, Nr Leysdown-on-See, Isle-of-Sheppey, North Kent.
2M ASL

"InMyTree" wrote in message
...
Not true last year.. in fact it was the exact opposite..

"Shaun Pudwell" wrote in message
...
Simple, it happens almost every winter. Everywhere to the North and
West
of
London seems to get snow while the far South and South East just get
rain.
I suspect the top of the Downs and other high ground will get some wet
snow
while the back edge of the cold front may produce some sleet at lower
levels. If it were the 80's then maybe it would all be snow, but
unfortunately things have changed somewhat over the years.

Shaun Pudwell.

"Alan Gardiner" wrote in message
...

"Chris Handscomb" wrote in message
...
At the beginning of this message, I meant that it seems the
newsgroup
is
suggesting areas to the south of the M$ are UNlikely to see any
snow.
Got
a
bit confused!

I was wondering if the M$ referred to the new toll motorway given the
charges! In my location (St Albans) a trough or similar feature is
generally
required to generate significant snow as we are too far from the east
coast
for heavy showers to reach us. The latest charts suggest that the
chance
of
this happening is lower than 24hrs ago.

Alan