Various denizens of uk.sci.weather may have given the impression that the
Met Office was talking nonsense and falsely hyping snowfall this week.

These wretches would like unreservedly to apologise and would like to
reassure all and sundry that there was not one scintilla of a truth in any
of the unfair and premature slagging off of the Met Office and BBC weather
forecasts which had correctly predicted snow.

Sorry - the forecasts at the end of last week *clearly* stated the snow would
be arriving Sunday night/Monday morning. *They were wrong* - plain and simple.
Nor is an inch of snow "arctic conditions".

Whilst I don't expect accuracy to the minute, I would have thought that with
all the computing power the Met Office has at its disposal, it should be a fait
bit more accurate than it has shown to be on this occasion.

Not good enough.


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"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
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Various denizens of uk.sci.weather may have given the impression that the
Met Office was talking nonsense and falsely hyping snowfall this week.

These wretches would like unreservedly to apologise and would like to
reassure all and sundry that there was not one scintilla of a truth in any
of the unfair and premature slagging off of the Met Office and BBC weather
forecasts which had correctly predicted snow.



1. The cold was a day late
2. Every forecast was different constant changes
3. The big freeze is turning out to be what a one day event for most of the
uk?

Need i go on?

Off topic : that ass Brian Gaze TWO was blaming Will hand , media and the
met office
because his own long range forecast had gone wrong, i ask ya how can you
blame other people
for getting your own long range forecast wrong. That guy finds it really
difficult to admit his own faults hes very big headed!

Generally speaking the forecasts have been very poor, but most people in
this newsgroup have a decent understanding, and the slagging off has been
from a minority, and not regulars of this newsgroup.
Nice try Simon.
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"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
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Various denizens of uk.sci.weather may have given the impression that the
Met Office was talking nonsense and falsely hyping snowfall this week.

These wretches would like unreservedly to apologise and would like to
reassure all and sundry that there was not one scintilla of a truth in any
of the unfair and premature slagging off of the Met Office and BBC weather
forecasts which had correctly predicted snow.

The early warnings of very severe weather towards the end of last week were
grossly overdone. OK, there's been a dusting of snow and its a bit chilly
in the wind ( so what ). I remember in the early to mid 80's having to walk
from where I lived in Gillingham to Rochester Airport 3 miles away through
6-10 inches of snow and sub zero temps. In Warden Bay today we we ended up
with about 1cm of snow which had melted and re-frozen.

Shaun Pudwell.

"danny" wrote in message
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Generally speaking the forecasts have been very poor, but most people in
this newsgroup have a decent understanding, and the slagging off has been
from a minority, and not regulars of this newsgroup.
Nice try Simon.
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"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
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Various denizens of uk.sci.weather may have given the impression that
the
Met Office was talking nonsense and falsely hyping snowfall this week.

These wretches would like unreservedly to apologise and would like to
reassure all and sundry that there was not one scintilla of a truth in
any
of the unfair and premature slagging off of the Met Office and BBC
weather
forecasts which had correctly predicted snow.

There has been some doubt cast but I think people have been much more
tolerant than with previous events. The realisation that snow is difficult
to predict, the Met Office have to make sure they're "not caught out" and
the stupidity of the media has helped.
I'm even think you Danny, once said "we never get any snow down here on a
Northerlies or NW" !!

Dave
"danny" wrote in message
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Generally speaking the forecasts have been very poor, but most people in
this newsgroup have a decent understanding, and the slagging off has been
from a minority, and not regulars of this newsgroup.
Nice try Simon.
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"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
...
Various denizens of uk.sci.weather may have given the impression that
the
Met Office was talking nonsense and falsely hyping snowfall this week.

These wretches would like unreservedly to apologise and would like to
reassure all and sundry that there was not one scintilla of a truth in
any
of the unfair and premature slagging off of the Met Office and BBC
weather
forecasts which had correctly predicted snow.

I would play down the fact that the Met Office have overdone it by as much
as some are claiming and I also feel they are being unfairly criticised. I
have not listened to or watched every forecast over the last week but those
I have observed, none have forecast that the Country will get a 'Whiteout'.
They have all indicated that the snow is likely to be worst in the N & E, as
we all know with Northerlies and exactly as it has turned out. And the 'snow
risk' map from last weekend onwards, that has been reasonably accurate - the
area I live, Malvern, was never more than moderate risk and the high risk
areas all seem to have got something.

Ever since I first had an interest in Meteorology as a young schoolkid in
the 1960's, I remember forecasts that haven't turn out exactly as first
thought and over the years, there are two particular types of weather that
it has most frequently occured with. One is as now, the other is with summer
TS's, especially as a heatwave breaks down.

Just as now with some in here, I used to get all exited then over a 'snow'
forecast only to find wherever I was got nothing while the TV news always
seemed to find somewhere that had got cut off by snow with scenes of
'whiteout', blocked roads etc. or alternatively, the forecast of severe TS,
only to witness a light passing shower and a change in temperature, while 50
miles away has had floods etc.

If anything, fingers of blame, as you suggest, should be pointed directly at
the Media for overhyping it. Especially so to one particular tabloid and its
pathetic (to anyone with half a brain) "feature" about the cold spell at the
beginning of the week, but quite frankly, anyone who seriously believes a
word of anything in that paper deserves all they get.

--
Pete

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"Dave. C" wrote in message
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There has been some doubt cast but I think people have been much more
tolerant than with previous events. The realisation that snow is difficult
to predict, the Met Office have to make sure they're "not caught out" and
the stupidity of the media has helped.
I'm even think you Danny, once said "we never get any snow down here on a
Northerlies or NW" !!

Dave
"danny" wrote in message
...
Generally speaking the forecasts have been very poor, but most people in
this newsgroup have a decent understanding, and the slagging off has
been
from a minority, and not regulars of this newsgroup.
Nice try Simon.
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"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
...
Various denizens of uk.sci.weather may have given the impression that
the
Met Office was talking nonsense and falsely hyping snowfall this week.

These wretches would like unreservedly to apologise and would like to
reassure all and sundry that there was not one scintilla of a truth in
any
of the unfair and premature slagging off of the Met Office and BBC
weather
forecasts which had correctly predicted snow.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:55:18 -0000, "Pete B"
wrote:

...none have forecast that the Country will get a 'Whiteout'.

A 'whiteout' refers to visibility, i.e. there isn't any, rather than
to coverage :-)

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow.
Overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in Argyll, Scotland.
http://tinyurl.com/55v3

"Alan White" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:55:18 -0000, "Pete B"
wrote:

...none have forecast that the Country will get a 'Whiteout'.

A 'whiteout' refers to visibility, i.e. there isn't any, rather than
to coverage :-)

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow.
Overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in Argyll, Scotland.
http://tinyurl.com/55v3

Yes, good point made there :-)

In casually using such a term which has a true meaning in Met language, I'm
being as bad as the journalists who tend to use it to mean what I was
implying i.e. the whole of the Country having a snowfall significant enough
to produce several cm.

What I should have said was that:

....none have forecast that the entire Country will receive significant snow.

Incidentally, although Malvern had nothing at the time I wrote that post,
that all changed very quickly around 16:00 hrs, much in line with other
observations regarding the intensity of the front. The temp immediately fell
to -1C and very quickly, a thickness of around 2cm was deposited. Not sure
how cold it is now but the sky is completely clear. If the view is good
enough tomorrow morning, I will take a couple of photo's of the hills and
dump them on a web page if I can find out how to do it.

--
Pete

Please take my dog out twice to e-mail

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