Well, that's THAT particular example of overhyped nonsense over and done
with. We DID have a little bit of snow, it DID get a tad colder for a time,
and the usual disruption and chaos HAS ensued. It's winter and this is the
U.K. - only to be expected, really. Perhaps now we can all get back to
normal again.


Chris

Yep - guess so!

At least until the next time Chris, so make the most of the peace and quiet
while it lasts:-))

Regards

David

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Well, that's THAT particular example of overhyped nonsense over and done
with. We DID have a little bit of snow, it DID get a tad colder for a
time,
and the usual disruption and chaos HAS ensued. It's winter and this is
the
U.K. - only to be expected, really. Perhaps now we can all get back to
normal again.


Chris




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Chris wrote:

Well, that's THAT particular example of overhyped nonsense over and done
with. We DID have a little bit of snow, it DID get a tad colder for a time,
and the usual disruption and chaos HAS ensued. It's winter and this is the
U.K. - only to be expected, really. Perhaps now we can all get back to
normal again.


Chris



Well at least for most of us it did happen in spectacular fashion.
Sarah H

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:51:49 +0000, SarahH
wrote:

Well, that's THAT particular example of overhyped nonsense over and done
with. We DID have a little bit of snow, it DID get a tad colder for a time,
and the usual disruption and chaos HAS ensued. It's winter and this is the
U.K. - only to be expected, really. Perhaps now we can all get back to
normal again.

Well at least for most of us it did happen in spectacular fashion.
Sarah H

What was so amazing for me was that almost everyone from the Midlands
to the South Coast experienced exactly the same spectacular (and
unusual) series of events. Further North, it may not have been exactly
the same but it was also spectacular, from all accounts. Thank
goodness for the online snowfall radar!

Once the single line convection had formed, it became completely
predictable, almost to the minute and hardly anyone was let down by
it. I can't remember this happening before - they almost always fizzle
out, turn to rain or the snow quickly melts. I even managed to get
down to -2 deg C last night, for the first time this Winter.

Oh, and what a wonderful scene outside this morning...and what a day
it was, for all of us eternal schoolboys... and girls!

--
Dave
Fareham

Hi Dave,

The cold front yesterday produced absolutely no snowfall here on the Wash
coast (Holbeach St Matthew) - the wind did turn NNW'ly with it's passing,
and the temperature dropped from +1.1c to -1.1c in 15 minutes...

I guess I shouldn't be greedy though, the snow overnight on Tuesday produced
13cm level in just 2 hours - still 10cm of the crunchy stuff left...

Paul
www.lincolnshireweather.co.uk
"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:51:49 +0000, SarahH
wrote:

Well, that's THAT particular example of overhyped nonsense over and
done
with. We DID have a little bit of snow, it DID get a tad colder for a
time,
and the usual disruption and chaos HAS ensued. It's winter and this is
the
U.K. - only to be expected, really. Perhaps now we can all get back
to
normal again.

Well at least for most of us it did happen in spectacular fashion.
Sarah H

What was so amazing for me was that almost everyone from the Midlands
to the South Coast experienced exactly the same spectacular (and
unusual) series of events. Further North, it may not have been exactly
the same but it was also spectacular, from all accounts. Thank
goodness for the online snowfall radar!

Once the single line convection had formed, it became completely
predictable, almost to the minute and hardly anyone was let down by
it. I can't remember this happening before - they almost always fizzle
out, turn to rain or the snow quickly melts. I even managed to get
down to -2 deg C last night, for the first time this Winter.

Oh, and what a wonderful scene outside this morning...and what a day
it was, for all of us eternal schoolboys... and girls!

--
Dave
Fareham

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Well, that's THAT particular example of overhyped nonsense over and done
with. We DID have a little bit of snow, it DID get a tad colder for a time,
and the usual disruption and chaos HAS ensued. It's winter and this is the
U.K. - only to be expected, really. Perhaps now we can all get back to
normal again.

Although it was the media that did the hyping, not the Met Office.
Their advance warning of severe weather conditions issued last
weekend was correct, indicating the most severe conditions in
northern and eastern areas and snowfall up to 15cms.
Nearer the time their risk disruption maps correlated very well
with the severity of the weather in those particular areas.

I'm not sure what everybody else thinks but I think the Met Office
played this one as well as could reasonably be expected given
the uncertainties.

Col
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Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

I quite agree Col. I was quite releived we had that snow front
yesterday, because without it, many would have discounted having a
cold spell at all.

Keith (Southend)

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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:13:04 -0000, "Col"
wrote:


"Chris" wrote in message
...
Well, that's THAT particular example of overhyped nonsense over and done
with. We DID have a little bit of snow, it DID get a tad colder for a time,
and the usual disruption and chaos HAS ensued. It's winter and this is the
U.K. - only to be expected, really. Perhaps now we can all get back to
normal again.

Although it was the media that did the hyping, not the Met Office.
Their advance warning of severe weather conditions issued last
weekend was correct, indicating the most severe conditions in
northern and eastern areas and snowfall up to 15cms.
Nearer the time their risk disruption maps correlated very well
with the severity of the weather in those particular areas.

I'm not sure what everybody else thinks but I think the Met Office
played this one as well as could reasonably be expected given
the uncertainties.

Col

"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
I quite agree Col. I was quite releived we had that snow front
yesterday, because without it, many would have discounted having a
cold spell at all.


And save this ng from a savage episode of toy throwing

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

In message , Col
writes

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Well, that's THAT particular example of overhyped nonsense over and done
with. We DID have a little bit of snow, it DID get a tad colder for a time,
and the usual disruption and chaos HAS ensued. It's winter and this is the
U.K. - only to be expected, really. Perhaps now we can all get back to
normal again.

Although it was the media that did the hyping, not the Met Office.
Their advance warning of severe weather conditions issued last
weekend was correct, indicating the most severe conditions in
northern and eastern areas and snowfall up to 15cms.
Nearer the time their risk disruption maps correlated very well
with the severity of the weather in those particular areas.

I'm not sure what everybody else thinks but I think the Met Office
played this one as well as could reasonably be expected given
the uncertainties.

Col

I agree that within any reasonable accuracy limits the medium range
predictions from the Met Office were pretty good. Where I might add a
note of criticism (constructive, I hope) is that only one side of the
coin was presented. Quite rightly, the Met Office advance warnings gave
notice of the potential for severe weather. Percentage probabilities
were given for widespread disruption. Implicit in such warnings is that
these conditions may not occur, particularly where the probability is
less than 40 percent, but this is never stated explicitly in the
warnings. It might be helpful if the warnings also stated explicitly
what is likely to happen if the severe weather does not occur.

Also, the warnings tend to emphasis the most severe condition. I cannot
remember the precise texts of the warnings but they often use phrases
such as

"accumulations up to 15 cm may occur"

That figure of 15 cm is, typically, the only one that appears and that
is what is picked up by the media. Much better IMHO is to be more
explicit and say something along the lines of (example only):

"Accumulations will be very variable. Many areas will see
2-5 cm
but in NW and SW England and western Wales accumulations
will be negligible. Over the hills and coasts of
Yorkshire and
Lincolnshire accumulations will be greater and may reach
10-15 cm
locally".

A forecast needs to contain very good "signposting". If the forecaster
thinks that Buckinghamshire is likely to get an accumulation of 2 cm
that's what the man on the Buckingham omnibus needs to hear, not that
"accumulations up to 15 cm may occur".

Communicating the forecast in a meaningful way to the user is often a
more difficult task than getting the forecast right.

Max temp here today only 2.9c. The snow melted quite a bit in the sun
but very little melting in the shade. Still more than a 50 percent cover
of about 1 cm this evening. Freezing hard now with the temp down to -2c

Norman.
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