"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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It almost feels as though summer is over out there to me, and the forecast
charts to have much to offer. I have this naasty feeling August is going to
be dissapointing in the UK. It seems to have changed with the Schools
breaking up. Come on weather, we need more than this :-)

I was thinking just that today.
But there is still a long way to go, this has, after all, been just one
lousy day in what has been a pretty good summer so far.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

Hi,
Do you think it has been a good summer? Maybe you're right... June was
certainly nice, but a few hot days would have been nice.. it was warm but
never overly so.
Although we had a few days that were very warm\hot, nothing more than the
usual. I would say average summer 'so far'.
If this weather pattern continues for the next 3-4 weeks, which is possible
looking at the 120\144's, summer will overall be disappointing, in my
opinion.
It certainly feels Autumnal out there last few days.
Still, August usually brings our best weather I guess?
Danny.

"danny" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Do you think it has been a good summer? Maybe you're right... June was
certainly nice, but a few hot days would have been nice.. it was warm but
never overly so.
Although we had a few days that were very warm\hot, nothing more than the
usual. I would say average summer 'so far'.
If this weather pattern continues for the next 3-4 weeks, which is
possible
looking at the 120\144's, summer will overall be disappointing, in my
opinion.
It certainly feels Autumnal out there last few days.
Still, August usually brings our best weather I guess?


So where in the Arctic do you live then? :-)

Victor

"danny" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Do you think it has been a good summer? Maybe you're right... June was
certainly nice, but a few hot days would have been nice.. it was warm but
never overly so.
Although we had a few days that were very warm\hot, nothing more than the
usual. I would say average summer 'so far'.
If this weather pattern continues for the next 3-4 weeks, which is possible
looking at the 120\144's, summer will overall be disappointing, in my
opinion.
It certainly feels Autumnal out there last few days.
Still, August usually brings our best weather I guess?

It's all relative to your own particular set of averages of course.
June up here had only 50% average rainfall,I believe it was very
wet in parts of the south.
Perhaps up here it has been better than average overall but in
the south only average. Of course that could mean that 'absolute'
conditions have been similar

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

I would say average summer 'so far'.

Perhaps you should keep records. Here in Surrey June was 2.6°C above the
1971-2000 average, and rainfall 50%. July so far is 1.8°C above average and
rainfall about 85%. I would say warm dry summer so far, very much so.

If this weather pattern continues for the next 3-4 weeks, which is possible
looking at the 120\144's, summer will overall be disappointing, in my
opinion.

Ludicrous. Reminds me of the story of the fairy princess who slept on 6
feather mattresses under which was placed a pea. She complained of the
"terrible lump" in the bed.

It certainly feels Autumnal out there last few days.

It neither looks nor feels autumnal. Cool to normal summer days, and
quite pleasant. I would guess that you have never experienced a really bad
summer. Ironically, I still get people of my age (60) telling me that summers
aren't what they were. It's an unfortunate dead-cert conversation-stopper to
tell them, "you're right, they're better". Ah, well.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

It neither looks nor feels autumnal. Cool to normal summer
days, and
quite pleasant. I would guess that you have never experienced a
really bad
summer. Ironically, I still get people of my age (60) telling me that
summers
aren't what they were. It's an unfortunate dead-cert
conversation-stopper to
tell them, "you're right, they're better". Ah, well.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

I agree entirely with that; my memories of summer holidays in the 1950s
was of rain particularly one infamous year in North Wales when it rained
incessantly. I found out recently that this was probably the worst
summer in the 20th century. The first really decent summer I can
remember was 1959.

Main mean maximum for July is currently 24.2°C with a mean of 18.3°C
which is well above the Rothamstead long term average. These values may
well drop a little by the end of the month based on the forecast.

Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans
N51:44 W00:22
101m ASL

Tudor is quite correct. For parts of the Southeast with the exception of
1976 it was the warmest June back to 1858. Incidentally Danny did not put
his location. It is very helpful if posters talking about weather conditions
could put their location as it has very much a bearing on the discussion.
Sometimes there can be quite a difference in overall monthly conditions
between say the Shetlands and Cornwall.
Many people have forgotten what a `bad' summer month can be. Now 1954 in my
area-Coulsdon to Redhill in Surrey had just ONE day exceeding 21C, 1956
just 6 days and 1958 only 5. This year most days have exceeded this figure.
Also 1954 had over 90mm of rain and 1956 130mm of rain. And. I have not
begun to mention the very chill Julys of 1919, 1910, 1891 or 1888, months
that would have this newsgroup ringing with posts.
Incidentally my long range forecast which has been fairly accurate so far
this year goes for quite a warm August.
Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.Frostedearth.com





"danny" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Do you think it has been a good summer? Maybe you're right... June was
certainly nice, but a few hot days would have been nice.. it was warm but
never overly so.
Although we had a few days that were very warm\hot, nothing more than the
usual. I would say average summer 'so far'.
If this weather pattern continues for the next 3-4 weeks, which is
possible
looking at the 120\144's, summer will overall be disappointing, in my
opinion.
It certainly feels Autumnal out there last few days.
Still, August usually brings our best weather I guess?
Danny.

"Ian Currie" wrote in message
...
Tudor is quite correct. For parts of the Southeast with the exception of
1976 it was the warmest June back to 1858. Incidentally Danny did not put
his location. It is very helpful if posters talking about weather conditions
could put their location as it has very much a bearing on the discussion.
Sometimes there can be quite a difference in overall monthly conditions
between say the Shetlands and Cornwall.
Many people have forgotten what a `bad' summer month can be. Now 1954 in my
area-Coulsdon to Redhill in Surrey had just ONE day exceeding 21C, 1956
just 6 days and 1958 only 5. This year most days have exceeded this figure.
Also 1954 had over 90mm of rain and 1956 130mm of rain. And. I have not
begun to mention the very chill Julys of 1919, 1910, 1891 or 1888, months
that would have this newsgroup ringing with posts.

Just one day exceeding 21C in the whole summer in Southern England??
I find that utterly amazing!
Even if that happened here I would consider it a summer abysmal almost
beyond comprehesion, but down south, wow!
These days it doesn't seem to take much in the way of continental high
pressure or just a hint of continental air and it's 25C in the SE.
What on earth was the general synoptic situation in 1954, persistent
NW-N winds with constant lows in the North Sea?

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

In the referenced article, "Col" writes:

"Ian Currie" wrote in message
...
Tudor is quite correct. For parts of the Southeast with the exception of
1976 it was the warmest June back to 1858. Incidentally Danny did not put
his location. It is very helpful if posters talking about weather conditions
could put their location as it has very much a bearing on the discussion.
Sometimes there can be quite a difference in overall monthly conditions
between say the Shetlands and Cornwall.
Many people have forgotten what a `bad' summer month can be. Now 1954 in my
area-Coulsdon to Redhill in Surrey had just ONE day exceeding 21C, 1956
just 6 days and 1958 only 5. This year most days have exceeded this figure.
Also 1954 had over 90mm of rain and 1956 130mm of rain. And. I have not
begun to mention the very chill Julys of 1919, 1910, 1891 or 1888, months
that would have this newsgroup ringing with posts.

Just one day exceeding 21C in the whole summer in Southern England??
I find that utterly amazing!
Even if that happened here I would consider it a summer abysmal almost
beyond comprehesion, but down south, wow!
These days it doesn't seem to take much in the way of continental high
pressure or just a hint of continental air and it's 25C in the SE.
What on earth was the general synoptic situation in 1954, persistent
NW-N winds with constant lows in the North Sea?


True: One day above 21C in S England does sound very surprising, particularly
given that W or SW winds with some sunshine normally push the temperature
above 21C in the S of England through most of July and August.

Nick

In article ,
danny writes:
There certainly haven't been many 30 degree plus days so far, where I
am.

But even with global warming such days are still relatively few. I'd
guess that where you live, even over the last ten years at least half
the summers won't have had any and only one or two will have had more
than a couple. You could easily have a very warm and sunny summer
without any spell of extreme heat that would give temperatures over 30.
--
John Hall
Johnson: "Well, we had a good talk."
Boswell: "Yes, Sir, you tossed and gored several persons."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84); James Boswell (1740-95)