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One thing I have noticed in this snowy spell is how easily it snows in upland
areas. On 3 days now, normally in the evenings I have seen steady light snow
from an almost clear starry sky. Yesterday morning before the main snow set in,
it was snowing from very thin stratus or cumulus fractus and I think that this
was happening in the evenings. This was far away from the house and trees so it
wasn't blowing off roofs etc (wind only F4-5 anyway). It's possible it was
blowing from the deeper cloud upwind though.

Cumulus clouds now bubbling up nicely, could be snow showers this afternoon ?

Will.
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Will

As an observer I have had to invent a trace of cumulus before now to explain
both snow & rain from what looked a perfectly clear sky at night. If I
remember correctly on both occasions the winds were strong and from the
south or southwest at Kinloss. I have also observed what I reported as
diamont dust (probably mistakenly) again falling from clear skies in misty
conditions with temperatures well below -5C (if my failing memory serves me
well). The only reason I noticed anything at all was ATC were playing there
searchlight on me as I was doing the 2100 observation, the ice crystals were
barely perceptable on my face, and almost ssem to hang in the air.

Hills do have a climate of there own, just one example of this I noticed a
few years ago now when we climbed a couple of Munros of the A9, the tops
were very icy and the cairns were especially heavily rimed, but the 11Z
ascent from Shanwell that day did show the freezing level well above the
level we were at.

Bruce.


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One thing I have noticed in this snowy spell is how easily it snows in

upland
areas. On 3 days now, normally in the evenings I have seen steady light

snow
from an almost clear starry sky. Yesterday morning before the main snow

set in,
it was snowing from very thin stratus or cumulus fractus and I think that

this
was happening in the evenings. This was far away from the house and trees

so it
wasn't blowing off roofs etc (wind only F4-5 anyway). It's possible it was
blowing from the deeper cloud upwind though.

Cumulus clouds now bubbling up nicely, could be snow showers this

afternoon ?

Will.
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Thanks Bruce,

Last time I saw diamond dust was in 1982 in Bracknell when there was 20 cm snow
on the ground and the air temperature was circa -10 deg C. As you say it just
sort of hangs in the air, the sky was 8/8 blue and it was glinting in the
sunshine, it is not common in the UK. What I saw in last few days were small
flakes of snow.

PS got my light snow shower this afternoon, from cumulus mediocrus !

ATB,

Will.
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Will

As an observer I have had to invent a trace of cumulus before now to explain
both snow & rain from what looked a perfectly clear sky at night. If I
remember correctly on both occasions the winds were strong and from the
south or southwest at Kinloss. I have also observed what I reported as
diamont dust (probably mistakenly) again falling from clear skies in misty
conditions with temperatures well below -5C (if my failing memory serves me
well). The only reason I noticed anything at all was ATC were playing there
searchlight on me as I was doing the 2100 observation, the ice crystals were
barely perceptable on my face, and almost ssem to hang in the air.

Hills do have a climate of there own, just one example of this I noticed a
few years ago now when we climbed a couple of Munros of the A9, the tops
were very icy and the cairns were especially heavily rimed, but the 11Z
ascent from Shanwell that day did show the freezing level well above the
level we were at.

Bruce.


"Will" wrote in message
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This posting expresses the personal view and opinions of the author.
Something which everyone on this planet should be able to do.
================================================== ==================

One thing I have noticed in this snowy spell is how easily it snows in

upland
areas. On 3 days now, normally in the evenings I have seen steady light

snow
from an almost clear starry sky. Yesterday morning before the main snow

set in,
it was snowing from very thin stratus or cumulus fractus and I think that

this
was happening in the evenings. This was far away from the house and trees

so it
wasn't blowing off roofs etc (wind only F4-5 anyway). It's possible it was
blowing from the deeper cloud upwind though.

Cumulus clouds now bubbling up nicely, could be snow showers this

afternoon ?

Will.
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:01:54 -0000, "Will"
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Thanks Bruce,

Last time I saw diamond dust was in 1982 in Bracknell when there was 20 cm snow
on the ground and the air temperature was circa -10 deg C. As you say it just
sort of hangs in the air, the sky was 8/8 blue and it was glinting in the
sunshine, it is not common in the UK. What I saw in last few days were small
flakes of snow.

That, Will, is exactly what I saw more than once (in essentially clear
skies) in the Winter of 1962/3, in Easterlies. I was living in NE
Stockport on low ground at the time and it struck me as a little odd
to say the least, so I've always remembered it. They were small thin
flakes but snowflakes nonetheless, of the kind that might produce
fluffy snow on the ground from which you can't easily make snowballs.
After some discussions my schoolfriends and I guessed it must have
come from somewhere in the Pennines (5 to 10 miles away), either as
blown recently fallen snow or from cloud we could not see. It was
fascinating to see!

Fluffy cheers

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