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BUT!Hot of f the press from the EGU meeting Nice-
http://www.cosis.net/members/meeting...51f17ad555e924 THE QBO LINK TO EUROPEAN WINTER WEATHER F. A. Parton (1), M. A. Saunders (1) (1) University College London The quasi-biennial oscillation (QBO) is the most predictable interannual climate fluc-tuation on the planet. It is a quasiperiodic variation in the direction of the zonal flow in the equatorial stratosphere with a period of ? 28 months. A recent study has suggested a link between the QBO and northern hemisphere wintertime weather in January. We extend this work and show persuasive evidence for a significant link between the QBO and (1) the winter (December-January-February) Arctic Oscillation, (2) various winter NAO indices and (3) the winter central England temperature. Power spectral analysis of winter data between 1874 and 1999 (1899 to 2002 for the Arctic Oscillation) shows that each of the above signals has a significant (p 0.05) power peak at a period of either 2.3 or 2.4 years; this corresponding to the QBO mean period. The QBO link to European winter temperature appears spatially and temporally variable, with regions of significant association showing a southward shift in latitude from Scandinavia to central Europe as the winter progresses from December to February. We explore the hypothesis that the QBO is exerting a forcing effect on European winter weather by us-ing lead/lag correlation analyses and wind data at different heights in the stratosphere and troposphere. -- regards, david (add 17 to waghorne to reply) |
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Dave Ludlow wrote in message ...
:On 01 May 2004 00:23:20 GMT, (TudorHgh) wrote: : Hailstones the size of pigeons' eggs fell : And we all know how big they can be, don't we? Don't we? :EU cultural differences (well I hope that's what it is) are the spice ![]() ![]() Do you mean that Dutch pigeons lay eggs that are a different size from British pigeons' eggs ? The comparison of hailstones to pigeons' eggs was in the report alongside the picture I posted a link to. Perhaps the writer was a pigeon fancier. More seriously - there is an excellent view of Friday afternoon's storms in Belgium and the Netherlands on one of Bernard Burton's satpics http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham...46-c-fr-e.html 37 mm rain fell at Liège Bierset airfield in Belgium. The satpic is timed towards the end of the storm that hit the area around Maastricht. One Dutch observer near Maastricht reported up to 40 lightning flashes per minute at the height of the storm and some rotation in the cloud. During the evening the storms moved WNW across the south of the Netherlands and affected the Rotterdam area from about 20.00 local time onwards. Heavy rain, squalls and impressive lightning (10 to 15 discharges a minute) and "frightening explosive thunder" there as well - "the most severe storm I have seen in years" reported by one local observer. Colin Youngs Brussels |
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Alastair McDonald wrote:
I am not joking, but I have been reading "Weather Cycles" by Burroughs ISBN 0 521 52822 4, and he points out that as soon as you identiy a weather cycle it stops working! A quick search with www.google.com will soon find you plenty on the QBO. Note that it is quasi, and so it varies and its average length is 27 months. That would account for 1976 being hot, as well as 2003. They are exactly 12 QBO cycles apart. AFAIK there is no explanation for the QBO, so I cannot explain why it should produce its effects. Moreover the solar cycle (sun spots) and the ENSO will also have an effect. Cheers, Alastair. Soon after I started working in the Ice Section of the Met Office (1965), I noticed that pattern of spring breakup of the ice in Hudson's Bay followed a biennial pattern. Every even year, the ice broke from the eastern shore and, in odd years, from the west. As far as I remember, the oscillation had started by 1960 or earlier. I know it continued to 1972 but I left the section before seeing the 1973 breakup. Against the odds, this continued after I started using it for forecasting but perhaps Murphy's Law worked in a different way, because the knowledge was next to useless for me to help our customers. What was the point of knowing which side of Hudson's Bay would break first if you couldn't tell when you could penetrate the ice along the route into the Bay. The oscillation didn't even give me a clue as to whether the breakup would be late or early, because an odd year could have persistent, warm SW winds or cold winds from the NW. Similarly, even years could have early or late breakups. -- Graham Davis Bracknell |
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Colin Youngs wrote in message ...
:37 mm rain fell at Liège Bierset airfield in Belgium ... .... and 45 mm in Genk in NE Belgium and 34 mm in Rotterdam. Colin Youngs Brussels |
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![]() "Graham Davis" wrote in message ... Alastair McDonald wrote: I am not joking, but I have been reading "Weather Cycles" by Burroughs ISBN 0 521 52822 4, and he points out that as soon as you identiy a weather cycle it stops working! A quick search with www.google.com will soon find you plenty on the QBO. Note that it is quasi, and so it varies and its average length is 27 months. That would account for 1976 being hot, as well as 2003. They are exactly 12 QBO cycles apart. AFAIK there is no explanation for the QBO, so I cannot explain why it should produce its effects. Moreover the solar cycle (sun spots) and the ENSO will also have an effect. Cheers, Alastair. Soon after I started working in the Ice Section of the Met Office (1965), I noticed that pattern of spring breakup of the ice in Hudson's Bay followed a biennial pattern. Every even year, the ice broke from the eastern shore and, in odd years, from the west. As far as I remember, the oscillation had started by 1960 or earlier. I know it continued to 1972 but I left the section before seeing the 1973 breakup. Against the odds, this continued after I started using it for forecasting but perhaps Murphy's Law worked in a different way, because the knowledge was next to useless for me to help our customers. What was the point of knowing which side of Hudson's Bay would break first if you couldn't tell when you could penetrate the ice along the route into the Bay. The oscillation didn't even give me a clue as to whether the breakup would be late or early, because an odd year could have persistent, warm SW winds or cold winds from the NW. Similarly, even years could have early or late breakups. It is interesting that it was sea ice that first caught your eye as being biennial. Many annual average temperature records also show periods of annual reversals. But it was the plots below of ice extent and ice area for the Arctic which finally sent me searching on the web for a biennial oscillation, and I found the QBO. The plots to which I am referring are; http://iup.physik.uni-bremen.de:8084/decade.html There are two plots on that diagram. The light grey dots are ice extent and the black dots are ice area. The extent, which is probably more sensitive to the polar vortex shows the most obvious bieniality, from 1992 to 2000. What interests me is the linearity of the alternative years 1996, 1998, 2000, & 2002. It will be interesting to see if this year 2004 follows that trend. The fact that the bieniality breaks down is probably due to the fact that the cycle is not exactly two years. With a period of 2.25 years, it will be 180 degress out of phase with the seasonal cycle after 4 cycles viz 10 years. Cheers, Alastair. |
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