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If the stats issued to by the Met Office to the media are
to be believed, Oxford has been smashing sunshine records out of sight over recent days, with 16.0 hours on Sunday and 16.4 hours on Tuesday. As the sun is supposed to be above the horizon for 15 hours and 40 minutes at Oxford at this time of the year, clearly something is amiss. The Met Office is, of course, known for its accuracy and attention to detail, so they must have discovered that the sun is now above the horizon for longer than heretofore, presumably as a result of a change in the tilt of the Earth's axis. It is sad that they have chosen not to share this mildly interesting information with the rest of the nation. Philip Eden |
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![]() CORRECTED VERSION If the stats issued to by the Met Office to the media are to be believed, Oxford has been smashing sunshine records out of sight over recent days, with 16.0 hours on Sunday and 16.4 hours on Tuesday. As the sun is supposed to be above the horizon for 16 hours and 40 minutes at Oxford at this time of the year, and as sunshine recorders (both CS and KZ) do not record sunshine within approximately half an hour of sunrise and sunset, clearly something is amiss. In 100 years of sunshine measurement at Kew (where the daylight is three minutes shorter than Oxford in midsummer) 15.7 hours was the highest. The Met Office is, of course, known for its accuracy and attention to detail, so they must have discovered that the sun is now above the horizon for longer than heretofore, presumably as a result of a change in the tilt of the Earth's axis. It is sad that they have chosen not to share this mildly interesting information with the rest of the nation. Philip Eden |
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In message , Philip Eden
writes CORRECTED VERSION If the stats issued to by the Met Office to the media are to be believed, Oxford has been smashing sunshine records out of sight over recent days, with 16.0 hours on Sunday and 16.4 hours on Tuesday. As the sun is supposed to be above the horizon for 16 hours and 40 minutes at Oxford at this time of the year, and as sunshine recorders (both CS and KZ) do not record sunshine within approximately half an hour of sunrise and sunset, clearly something is amiss. In 100 years of sunshine measurement at Kew (where the daylight is three minutes shorter than Oxford in midsummer) 15.7 hours was the highest. Yes I noted these figures with some amazement too! Although very sunny of late here too, just 50 miles or so NW of Oxford, we certainly haven't had wall to wall sunshine on any day. On Tuesday for instance, we only had 8.9 hours of sun in Coventry while Oxford recorded that incredible 16.4hr. Even more interesting for me though, with records dating back to 1892, 15.9 hours of sunshine in a day is our record, and that's unlikely to be broken, unless the Met Office know any different! -- Steve Jackson, Bablake Weather Station, Coventry, UK http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/bws |
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Here we go again, very interesting stats Philip, thank goodness you are
around to point out these "inaccuracies" What on Earth are future generations going to make of the data supplied in the late 20th/early 21st centuries, especially when plugged into the climate change debate. Of course, the sunshine stats only confirm recent comments that "the sun is stronger than usual for this time of year"! Regards, Simon Simon Keeling -- Weather Consultancy Services Ltd The Weather Centre, 188 Common Road, Wombourne, Staffordshire, England. WV5 0LT. Tel: 08700 738 100 Fax: 01902 895242 email: http://www.weatherweb.net http://www.atlanticweather.co.uk "Steve Jackson" wrote in message ... In message , Philip Eden writes CORRECTED VERSION If the stats issued to by the Met Office to the media are to be believed, Oxford has been smashing sunshine records out of sight over recent days, with 16.0 hours on Sunday and 16.4 hours on Tuesday. As the sun is supposed to be above the horizon for 16 hours and 40 minutes at Oxford at this time of the year, and as sunshine recorders (both CS and KZ) do not record sunshine within approximately half an hour of sunrise and sunset, clearly something is amiss. In 100 years of sunshine measurement at Kew (where the daylight is three minutes shorter than Oxford in midsummer) 15.7 hours was the highest. Yes I noted these figures with some amazement too! Although very sunny of late here too, just 50 miles or so NW of Oxford, we certainly haven't had wall to wall sunshine on any day. On Tuesday for instance, we only had 8.9 hours of sun in Coventry while Oxford recorded that incredible 16.4hr. Even more interesting for me though, with records dating back to 1892, 15.9 hours of sunshine in a day is our record, and that's unlikely to be broken, unless the Met Office know any different! -- Steve Jackson, Bablake Weather Station, Coventry, UK http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/bws |
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![]() "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message ... CORRECTED VERSION If the stats issued to by the Met Office to the media are to be believed, Oxford has been smashing sunshine records out of sight over recent days, with 16.0 hours on Sunday and 16.4 hours on Tuesday. I had always believed that the "Oxford" in the media reports was Brize Norton. Because the tables were originally designed (and are indeed still used by) the national newspapers, there is a 5pm deadline (used to be 6pm or 7pm before new technology in the newspaper industry improved things). This means that sunshine figures for much of the year but especially in summer are split between two days. Occasional odd or impossible numbers in the lists I had always put down to a mis-counting of the hours in one or both "halves". The Oxford/Brize figures for the last week are as follows: Date media true 9th 3.8 1.9 10th 7.4 9.8 11th n/a 10.1 12th 9.1 10.5 13th 16.0 8.8 14th 13.8 11.1 15th 16.4 14.1 Even given the problems outlined above, it is simply not possible to rationalise these two sets of figures. Philip Eden |
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![]() "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message ... "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message ... CORRECTED VERSION If the stats issued to by the Met Office to the media are to be believed, Oxford has been smashing sunshine records out of sight over recent days, with 16.0 hours on Sunday and 16.4 hours on Tuesday. I had always believed that the "Oxford" in the media reports was Brize Norton. Because the tables were originally designed (and are indeed still used by) the national newspapers, there is a 5pm deadline (used to be 6pm or 7pm before new technology in the newspaper industry improved things). This means that sunshine figures for much of the year but especially in summer are split between two days. Occasional odd or impossible numbers in the lists I had always put down to a mis-counting of the hours in one or both "halves". Apparently it was all down to a small procedural problem at Brize Norton, to be put right forthwith. Thanks. Philip Eden |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:57:21 +0100, "Philip Eden"
philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote: CORRECTED VERSION If the stats issued to by the Met Office to the media are to be believed, Oxford has been smashing sunshine records out of sight over recent days, with 16.0 hours on Sunday and 16.4 hours on Tuesday. As the sun is supposed to be above the horizon for 16 hours and 40 minutes at Oxford at this time of the year, and as sunshine recorders (both CS and KZ) do not record sunshine within approximately half an hour of sunrise and sunset, clearly something is amiss. In 100 years of sunshine measurement at Kew (where the daylight is three minutes shorter than Oxford in midsummer) 15.7 hours was the highest. The Met Office is, of course, known for its accuracy and attention to detail, so they must have discovered that the sun is now above the horizon for longer than heretofore, presumably as a result of a change in the tilt of the Earth's axis. It is sad that they have chosen not to share this mildly interesting information with the rest of the nation. Is this the start of the "The Day After Tomorrow" scenario? How long before the glaciers reach Coventry? 6 weeks? JPG Philip Eden |
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