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Old July 7th 04, 06:03 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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"PJB" wrote in message
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"Mark B" wrote in message
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PJB - how does that work ? Genuinely interested.

So Raw data comes directly from Radar sites rather than through MetO ?



No it comes from the Met Office, but the feed that drives the web server

is
not the same as what gets sent to external customers such as avbrief. The
problem was reversed the other week, no website data was available however
Avbrief was receiving the data.. There is no problem with the radar

network,
it is simply a comms problem at the met office with this particular data
feed. If i was avbrief i would be asking for a REFUND !!


On the 16th June there was a DNS problem at Met Office which affected the
whole website not just the Aviation section. Was it this date you were
referring to ?

Joe



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Old July 7th 04, 06:04 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Most things the Met Office sell are expensive :-(( but thats a whole other
story...

Paul


"Mark B" wrote in message
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Perhaps the MetO have unplugged their end because of the interesting

weather
... (only joking)

thanks for the reply PJB.

I would too if I was AVBrief - as as far as I am aware the data they
purchase is rather expensive.

Mark.

"PJB" wrote in message
...

"Mark B" wrote in message
...
PJB - how does that work ? Genuinely interested.

So Raw data comes directly from Radar sites rather than through MetO ?



No it comes from the Met Office, but the feed that drives the web server

is
not the same as what gets sent to external customers such as avbrief.

The
problem was reversed the other week, no website data was available

however
Avbrief was receiving the data.. There is no problem with the radar

network,
it is simply a comms problem at the met office with this particular data
feed. If i was avbrief i would be asking for a REFUND !!



Mark.

"PJB" wrote in message
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"Mark B" wrote in message
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Same here too - stinks to me a bit !

MetO restricting data to its purchasers when interesting weather

around
to
make people subscribe to them rather than AVbrief ?

How can MetO be updating if problem is their end ?

Mark.


They are two different feeds of data.










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Can't remember the exact date Joe, to be honest.

Paul

"Joe Hunt" wrote in message
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"PJB" wrote in message
...

"Mark B" wrote in message
...
PJB - how does that work ? Genuinely interested.

So Raw data comes directly from Radar sites rather than through MetO ?



No it comes from the Met Office, but the feed that drives the web server

is
not the same as what gets sent to external customers such as avbrief.

The
problem was reversed the other week, no website data was available

however
Avbrief was receiving the data.. There is no problem with the radar

network,
it is simply a comms problem at the met office with this particular data
feed. If i was avbrief i would be asking for a REFUND !!


On the 16th June there was a DNS problem at Met Office which affected the
whole website not just the Aviation section. Was it this date you were
referring to ?

Joe




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It seems very suspicious to me that the link is broken at such a critical
time. Again it has gone down since 07:45 08/07/02 today. We go for weeks
without much happening of interest and just as the curtains open the lights
go out. Is this a ploy to get people to subscribe to the Met Office radar @
£57!!!

AvBrief Alerts / Notices (last update: 07/06/04 17:40Z)
There is a break between the UKMO and AvBrief at present.
radar images and some other visual data may be missing for a while

A very digruntled user.

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net

"PJB" wrote in message
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Can't remember the exact date Joe, to be honest.

Paul

"Joe Hunt" wrote in message
...

"PJB" wrote in message
...

"Mark B" wrote in message
...
PJB - how does that work ? Genuinely interested.

So Raw data comes directly from Radar sites rather than through MetO

?


No it comes from the Met Office, but the feed that drives the web

server
is
not the same as what gets sent to external customers such as avbrief.

The
problem was reversed the other week, no website data was available

however
Avbrief was receiving the data.. There is no problem with the radar

network,
it is simply a comms problem at the met office with this particular

data
feed. If i was avbrief i would be asking for a REFUND !!


On the 16th June there was a DNS problem at Met Office which affected

the
whole website not just the Aviation section. Was it this date you were
referring to ?

Joe






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"keith.r.harris" wrote in message
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It seems very suspicious to me that the link is broken at such a critical
time. Again it has gone down since 07:45 08/07/02 today. We go for weeks
without much happening of interest and just as the curtains open the

lights
go out. Is this a ploy to get people to subscribe to the Met Office radar

@
£57!!!



I wasn't aware of any radar data problems last night or yesterday come to
that.

BTW the radar data forms part of the MetO *Aviation Briefing* Service.
There's quite a bit more to it including the high resolution 5min sferic
data from the ATD system, worth the sub alone IMHO. I suspect the free
hourly radar is adequate for most people anyway.

Jon. (wearing asbestos underwear)




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Jon,

I've been considering the Aviation Briefing service - but have 2 queries ?

(1) Is it paid yearly or monthly ?

(2) It says in T&Cs that you have to be a pilot ?

Mark.

"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in message
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"keith.r.harris" wrote in message
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It seems very suspicious to me that the link is broken at such a

critical
time. Again it has gone down since 07:45 08/07/02 today. We go for weeks
without much happening of interest and just as the curtains open the

lights
go out. Is this a ploy to get people to subscribe to the Met Office

radar
@
£57!!!



I wasn't aware of any radar data problems last night or yesterday come to
that.

BTW the radar data forms part of the MetO *Aviation Briefing* Service.
There's quite a bit more to it including the high resolution 5min sferic
data from the ATD system, worth the sub alone IMHO. I suspect the free
hourly radar is adequate for most people anyway.

Jon. (wearing asbestos underwear)




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Jon,

I've been considering the Aviation Briefing service - but have 2 queries ?

(1) Is it paid yearly or monthly ?


Yearly.


(2) It says in T&Cs that you have to be a pilot ?


Errr... ever flown a model aircraft ?! :-)
I can get clarification if you'd like ?

Jon.


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Thanks Jon

Now time for refund from AVBrief !

Mark.

"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in message
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"Mark B" wrote in message
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Jon,

I've been considering the Aviation Briefing service - but have 2 queries

?

(1) Is it paid yearly or monthly ?


Yearly.


(2) It says in T&Cs that you have to be a pilot ?


Errr... ever flown a model aircraft ?! :-)
I can get clarification if you'd like ?

Jon.




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Mark B typed:
Thanks Jon

Now time for refund from AVBrief !

Mark.

"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in message
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"Mark B" wrote in message
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Jon,

I've been considering the Aviation Briefing service - but have 2
queries ?

(1) Is it paid yearly or monthly ?


Yearly.


(2) It says in T&Cs that you have to be a pilot ?


Errr... ever flown a model aircraft ?! :-)
I can get clarification if you'd like ?

Jon.


AFAIK when I signed up, it asked why you wanted the subscription - I put something along the lines of 'interest in weather' and they let me sign up.....
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Aviation photography (which is true)

Mark.

" cupra" wrote in message
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At some ,
Mark B typed:
Thanks Jon

Now time for refund from AVBrief !

Mark.

"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in message
...
"Mark B" wrote in message
...
Jon,

I've been considering the Aviation Briefing service - but have 2
queries ?

(1) Is it paid yearly or monthly ?


Yearly.


(2) It says in T&Cs that you have to be a pilot ?


Errr... ever flown a model aircraft ?! :-)
I can get clarification if you'd like ?

Jon.


AFAIK when I signed up, it asked why you wanted the subscription - I put
something along the lines of 'interest in weather' and they let me sign
up.....




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