From SFeric data and rainfall radar, it looks like a the Midlands will be in for a downpour, never mind the southeast problems that were mentioned on national forecasts (25.2degC here in Northampton)

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From SFeric data and rainfall radar, it looks like a the Midlands will be in
for a downpour, never mind the southeast problems that were mentioned on
national forecasts (25.2degC here in Northampton)

There are two different processes responsible for triggering convection
today. The first, as has now occurred, is from the upper trough to the W
destabilising the warm plume lying over most of central UK. The second from
imported storms from France, which may form an MCS later this evening.
Supercells are mentioned in the Estofex outlooks, but 11Z ascents show
profiles not ideal for such storms. We'll see. The SE will be affected a lot
later on, more likely late evening.

Joe

There currently seems to be two main areas of very heavy rain - one
travelling NNE up the Cotswolds, and another about 60km west of this...

Chris

" cupra" wrote in message
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From SFeric data and rainfall radar, it looks like a the Midlands will be in
for a downpour, never mind the southeast problems that were mentioned on
national forecasts (25.2degC here in Northampton)

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" cupra" wrote in message
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From SFeric data and rainfall radar, it looks like a the Midlands
will be in for a downpour, never mind the southeast problems that
were mentioned on national forecasts (25.2degC here in Northampton)

There are two different processes responsible for triggering
convection today. The first, as has now occurred, is from the upper
trough to the W destabilising the warm plume lying over most of
central UK. The second from imported storms from France, which may
form an MCS later this evening. Supercells are mentioned in the
Estofex outlooks, but 11Z ascents show profiles not ideal for such
storms. We'll see. The SE will be affected a lot later on, more
likely late evening.

Joe

Cheers, Joe (still learning so every little explanation helps!)

"Chris Kidd" wrote in message
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There currently seems to be two main areas of very heavy rain - one
travelling NNE up the Cotswolds, and another about 60km west of this...

Chris

" cupra" wrote in message
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From SFeric data and rainfall radar, it looks like a the Midlands will be
in
for a downpour, never mind the southeast problems that were mentioned on
national forecasts (25.2degC here in Northampton)



There has been nothing here in Malvern this afternoon or evening, not a drop
of rain since the steady rain this morning, no lightning seen or thunder
heard. Sky cleared after about 20:00 hrs. But that is par for the course
here, the action always seems to happen further North and East in these
situations.

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In uk.sci.weather on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 at 23:22:38, Pete B wrote :

There has been nothing here in Malvern this afternoon or evening, not a drop
of rain since the steady rain this morning, no lightning seen or thunder
heard.

Several heavy showers here though, not far away from you - one including
some faint thunder.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

"Pete B" wrote in message
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for a downpour, never mind the southeast problems that were mentioned on
national forecasts (25.2degC here in Northampton)



There has been nothing here in Malvern this afternoon or evening, not a drop
of rain since the steady rain this morning, no lightning seen or thunder
heard. Sky cleared after about 20:00 hrs. But that is par for the course
here, the action always seems to happen further North and East in these
situations.

Pete,

My parents moved to Malvern a couple of years ago and in making
their decision climate was one of many factors. I reckoned that
Malvern is at least *towards* the South West and would have a
reasonable rainfall, certainly more than Leeds in the rain shadow
of the Pennines where they moved from.
However this does not appear to be the case. They are constantly
saying that rain never seems to materialise when forecast.
Now I am wondering if there is something of a microclimate
around Malvern, perhaps only a small area, caused by the rain
shadow of the hills. They are pretty high after all, Worcestershire
beacon is 1400ft or whatever. However they are hardly very wide
Certainly whenever I have been up on the hills, the land on the
Herefordshire side always appears much greener than that on the
Worcestershire side.

Can a relatively high though ridiculously narrow range of hills make
that much of a difference?

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

"Col" wrote in message
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My parents moved to Malvern a couple of years ago and in making
their decision climate was one of many factors. I reckoned that
Malvern is at least *towards* the South West and would have a
reasonable rainfall, certainly more than Leeds in the rain shadow
of the Pennines where they moved from.
However this does not appear to be the case. They are constantly
saying that rain never seems to materialise when forecast.
Now I am wondering if there is something of a microclimate
around Malvern, perhaps only a small area, caused by the rain
shadow of the hills. They are pretty high after all, Worcestershire
beacon is 1400ft or whatever. However they are hardly very wide
Certainly whenever I have been up on the hills, the land on the
Herefordshire side always appears much greener than that on the
Worcestershire side.

Can a relatively high though ridiculously narrow range of hills make
that much of a difference?

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
Hi
I don't think the rainfall figures for the Malvern area are much higher than
Leeds. Shelter from the Welsh Mts. will often have a marked effect. Further
south in Gloucestershire and Wiltshire the rainfall figures begin to rise.
Cheers
John

--
York,
North Yorkshire.
(Norman Virus Protected)