One of the interesting points about Brogdale is when one looks at the
readings from the 1st to the 12th. I put them in a chart in the issue 14 of
Weather eye magazine. Now I do not want to comment too much and steal
Julian's and Philip's thunder etc but I have mused over them of late myself
and am a little puzzled by one or two of the values.
On the other hand if a place is skewed for warmth due to poor site
conditions e.g. sheltered by a wall of trees etc it would figure on more
than one occasion in the day to day UK maxima during the year. Perhaps
Philip can tell us how many times Brogdale has been the warmest place in
Britain over say the past 5 years. I doubt if it has figured at all.
I must say if a temperature of 38.5C was recorded at one of my stations it
would not wait until the end of the month to be announced it. It is
interesting that the observer did not think of it as being unusual and
warrant immediate attention.Funnily enough I did not ask the observer this
question when I went there.

Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.Frostedearth.com





"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
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"JJCMayes1" wrote in message
...
If it is not giving too much away before next month .... can
someone say
.... is it *all* maxima from Brogdale that are queried, or just
this
particular event?

Oh thanks Martin! - I'm really going to get into trouble for
spilling these
beans!

I am sure that Philip may have something to say about this, but
the Met Office
reply quotes daily temps. for August that show that Faversham was
anomalously
warm just on the 10th rather than adjacent days.
snip

I should not speak for Stephen without his permission, but
I think I can reasonably say that the need for a detailed
analysis grew out of Stephen's first paper (the one that has
appeared this month) which he kindly sent me draft of
for my comments. Stephen grew uncomfortable with the
Faversham reading as he wrote his paper but didn't
mention it to me. When I saw all the data he had collated
I was astonished at the absence of corroboration from
adjacent stations (I had until that point been entirely
happy to accept the official line ... indeed I had
commended it in my newspaper column).

Therefore the main purpose of the analysis was to try to
determine the representativeness of the single Faversham
maximum on August 10. Naturally this involved looking at
data from many stations over many years, so we made a
few other observations on the data, but only in passing.

I don't think there's much point in saying any more until
people have had a chance to read the analysis in all its
gory detail. I will, of course, be delighted to receive all
intelligent, knowledgeable, reasoned criticism (I'm sure
Stephen will too) ... we've not had any yet, apart of course
from the Editor's input gr

Julian ... I'm devising a punishment ....

Philip Eden

Lol, can I spell snobbbbery... now to the real reason why ;=) . Every
location has it's 'differences'.
There must have been thousands of gardens in Kent approaching 39C.
LOL Phillip, I knew you would have to be involved.
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"JJCMayes1" wrote in message
...
The August issue is a special issue on the summer heatwave and drought of
2003.
If any newsgroup members do not receive 'Weather' (dare I insert a
'smiley'
here?) - and would like this one - the print run has been extended to
allow
individual copies to be purchased at £3.95 each. Enquiries can be made to
the
publishers, the Royal Meteorological Society, at e-mail
or
give them a call on 0118 9568500. .

The issue is 44 pages long and contain the following articles:
The August 2003 heatwave in the UK (Stephen Burt)
The heatwave in Europe - synoptic diagnosis and impacts (Andreas Fink, et
al,
Cologne)
Factors contributing to the heatwave (Emily Black et al)
Hydrological aspects of the drought in the UK (Terry Marsh).

Readers may have noticed that Stephen Burt does not accept the UK national
temperature record set last year at Faversham. The reasons for this are
set out
in a further article in the September issue (in which Stephen joins forces
with
Philip Eden) and this is followed by a reply by the Met Office.

regards

Julian
Julian Mayes, Editor: Weather
in a still cloudy Molesey, Surrey - a little blue sky visible over London.
..