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The August issue is a special issue on the summer heatwave and drought of 2003.
If any newsgroup members do not receive 'Weather' (dare I insert a 'smiley'
here?) - and would like this one - the print run has been extended to allow
individual copies to be purchased at £3.95 each. Enquiries can be made to the
publishers, the Royal Meteorological Society, at e-mail or
give them a call on 0118 9568500. .

The issue is 44 pages long and contain the following articles:
The August 2003 heatwave in the UK (Stephen Burt)
The heatwave in Europe - synoptic diagnosis and impacts (Andreas Fink, et al,
Cologne)
Factors contributing to the heatwave (Emily Black et al)
Hydrological aspects of the drought in the UK (Terry Marsh).

Readers may have noticed that Stephen Burt does not accept the UK national
temperature record set last year at Faversham. The reasons for this are set out
in a further article in the September issue (in which Stephen joins forces with
Philip Eden) and this is followed by a reply by the Met Office.

regards

Julian
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in a still cloudy Molesey, Surrey - a little blue sky visible over London. .

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Excellent edition, this monthly journal is getting better all the
time. I see we have one of Bernard Burton's satellite pictures towards
the back, all in colour.
I was interested to read that on the 10th August Southchurch Park
(Southend sea front) recorded a max a lot lower than myself, being a
couple of miles away from the sea. I must pop down to Southchurch Park
and collar the man who takes the readings :-)

Keith (Southend)

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On 14 Aug 2004 12:19:15 GMT, (JJCMayes1) wrote:

The August issue is a special issue on the summer heatwave and drought of 2003.
If any newsgroup members do not receive 'Weather' (dare I insert a 'smiley'
here?) - and would like this one - the print run has been extended to allow
individual copies to be purchased at £3.95 each. Enquiries can be made to the
publishers, the Royal Meteorological Society, at e-mail
or
give them a call on 0118 9568500. .

The issue is 44 pages long and contain the following articles:
The August 2003 heatwave in the UK (Stephen Burt)
The heatwave in Europe - synoptic diagnosis and impacts (Andreas Fink, et al,
Cologne)
Factors contributing to the heatwave (Emily Black et al)
Hydrological aspects of the drought in the UK (Terry Marsh).

Readers may have noticed that Stephen Burt does not accept the UK national
temperature record set last year at Faversham. The reasons for this are set out
in a further article in the September issue (in which Stephen joins forces with
Philip Eden) and this is followed by a reply by the Met Office.

regards

Julian
Julian Mayes, Editor: Weather
in a still cloudy Molesey, Surrey - a little blue sky visible over London. .


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If it is not giving too much away before next month .... can someone say
.... is it *all* maxima from Brogdale that are queried, or just this

particular event?

Oh thanks Martin! - I'm really going to get into trouble for spilling these
beans!

I am sure that Philip may have something to say about this, but the Met Office
reply quotes daily temps. for August that show that Faversham was anomalously
warm just on the 10th rather than adjacent days. Having said that, Philip and
Stephen have examined past records and it does seem that high temps. at
Faversham (relative to nearby sites) have been more frequent since the station
re-opened in 1997. It was closed between 1990 and 1997. I do not know for sure
if it is in exactly the same site, but what is clear is that there is a conifer
windbreak immediately south of the instrument compound - maybe these were
smaller before 1990. Both Ian Currie and I have visited the site and taken
photographs (that appear in next month's Weather - and thanks to Ian for
letting us use his photograph).

It will be interesting to see how people react to the photographic evidence -
and the statistical evidence provided by Philip and Stephen of course.

I'd better not give anything else away!

Julian

Julian Mayes, Molesey, Surrey.

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I am pleased that I am a member of the Royal Met Society. This August issue
of weather is an excellent one with those artciles on last years heatwave.




"JJCMayes1" wrote in message
...
The August issue is a special issue on the summer heatwave and drought of

2003.
If any newsgroup members do not receive 'Weather' (dare I insert a

'smiley'
here?) - and would like this one - the print run has been extended to

allow
individual copies to be purchased at £3.95 each. Enquiries can be made to

the
publishers, the Royal Meteorological Society, at e-mail

or
give them a call on 0118 9568500. .

The issue is 44 pages long and contain the following articles:
The August 2003 heatwave in the UK (Stephen Burt)
The heatwave in Europe - synoptic diagnosis and impacts (Andreas Fink, et

al,
Cologne)
Factors contributing to the heatwave (Emily Black et al)
Hydrological aspects of the drought in the UK (Terry Marsh).

Readers may have noticed that Stephen Burt does not accept the UK national
temperature record set last year at Faversham. The reasons for this are

set out
in a further article in the September issue (in which Stephen joins forces

with
Philip Eden) and this is followed by a reply by the Met Office.

regards

Julian
Julian Mayes, Editor: Weather
in a still cloudy Molesey, Surrey - a little blue sky visible over London.

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I am grateful to Chris who has e-mailed me following my message to say that the
link to the free online issue has a glitch.

For anyone who does not subscribe to Weather and wishes to have a look at an
online issue free of charge, follow the 'journals' link at www.rmets.org.

Follow links to free sample issue; you end up with the December 2002 contents
page. Now, a few months ago we decided that we ought to offer the January 2004
issue for free instead (I hope you are all still with me :-) ). This means
that the Dec. 2002 issue is no longer free. From that contents page, click on
'all issues list' and then select January 2004 which is clearly marked 'free'.


pdfs may take a while to load but they should be in there somewhere.

I have asked for the website to be updated so this should be simpler after
Monday.

Julian

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On 14 Aug 2004 12:19:15 GMT, (JJCMayes1) wrote:

The August issue is a special issue on the summer heatwave and

drought of 2003.
snip
Readers may have noticed that Stephen Burt does not accept the UK

national
temperature record set last year at Faversham. The reasons for this

are set out
in a further article in the September issue (in which Stephen joins

forces with
Philip Eden) and this is followed by a reply by the Met Office.

Julian
Julian Mayes, Editor: Weather


.... you tease Julian ;-) Having to wait a whole month more for the
arguments!

Have only just finished the first article, and was interested to see
that even Wisley is questioned at one point .. this I had wondered about
'operationally' but was assured that everything was OK. Gravesend I
think most of us here had doubts about in many instances past. Good to
see that the 'record' goes to Kew, even if not the old Observatory! (If
it is not giving too much away before next month .... can someone say
..... is it *all* maxima from Brogdale that are queried, or just this
particular event?)

On the day, as Heathrow had come up with the figure that beat the
Cheltenham value, *it* got the credit for being the 'hot-spot', despite
our trying to impress upon the media that later values might be higher.
They were somewhat 'miffed' when even at the end of that day, higher
values NOT at Heathrow did indeed turn up. Little did they know that in
fact 'West London' was not far off the truth.

Fascinating stuff and all credit to Stephen, Philip and all for the hard
work put in.

Martin.


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Readers may have noticed that Stephen Burt does not accept the UK national
temperature record set last year at Faversham. The reasons for this are set
out
in a further article in the September issue (in which Stephen joins forces
with
Philip Eden) and this is followed by a reply by the Met Office.


I remember there being a similar kerfuffle over the 36°C recorded at
Plumpton, Sussex in June 1976. (26th, I believe). I seem to remember it was
rejected as "high". This seemed rather high-handed to me. It may well have
been justifiable, but not on the grounds given.
I shall examine Stephen Burt and Philip Eden's arguments next month in the
minutest detail but for the moment have an open mind. The important thing is
to have a record that is meaningful.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey (a paltry 35.9°C on 10/8/03)
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"JJCMayes1" wrote in message
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It will be interesting to see how people react to the photographic

evidence -
and the statistical evidence provided by Philip and Stephen of course.

I'd better not give anything else away!


.... don't worry: am willing to wait another 4 weeks. The issue was
fascinating BTW and anyone not being a subscriber to same could do well
to take up the offer to purchase a copy.

Martin.



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JJCMayes1 wrote in message ...
:The August issue is a special issue on the summer heatwave and drought of
2003.
:If any newsgroup members do not receive 'Weather' ...

Problem I have is that I subscribe to "Weather" but do not receive it.

I contacted the Subscriptions Department in May as I had not received any
issue since January. Replacement copies were sent very kindly and very
promptly.

However, the problem continued and I did not get the June or July issues
either. Once again the office sent me replacements immediately when I
enquired.

It seems that some RMS journals sent overseas get lost in transit. I
always received my copies of "Weather" normally before this year.

Colin Youngs
Brussels




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"JJCMayes1" wrote in message
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If it is not giving too much away before next month .... can

someone say
.... is it *all* maxima from Brogdale that are queried, or just

this
particular event?

Oh thanks Martin! - I'm really going to get into trouble for

spilling these
beans!

I am sure that Philip may have something to say about this, but

the Met Office
reply quotes daily temps. for August that show that Faversham was

anomalously
warm just on the 10th rather than adjacent days.

snip

I should not speak for Stephen without his permission, but
I think I can reasonably say that the need for a detailed
analysis grew out of Stephen's first paper (the one that has
appeared this month) which he kindly sent me draft of
for my comments. Stephen grew uncomfortable with the
Faversham reading as he wrote his paper but didn't
mention it to me. When I saw all the data he had collated
I was astonished at the absence of corroboration from
adjacent stations (I had until that point been entirely
happy to accept the official line ... indeed I had
commended it in my newspaper column).

Therefore the main purpose of the analysis was to try to
determine the representativeness of the single Faversham
maximum on August 10. Naturally this involved looking at
data from many stations over many years, so we made a
few other observations on the data, but only in passing.

I don't think there's much point in saying any more until
people have had a chance to read the analysis in all its
gory detail. I will, of course, be delighted to receive all
intelligent, knowledgeable, reasoned criticism (I'm sure
Stephen will too) ... we've not had any yet, apart of course
from the Editor's input gr

Julian ... I'm devising a punishment ....

Philip Eden




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