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http://www.guardian.co.uk/weather/St...282372,00.html

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/weather/St...282372,00.html


A very vague and not particularly useful article.
They say that heatwaves will increase by x amount but no indication
is given as to the definition of a heatwave.

Also they say that the increase in the number of heatwaves will
be higher in Paris than in Chicago.
Is the definition of a heatwave the same in Paris as it is in Chicago?
They say that in Chicago the average number of heatwaves per year
will increase by 25% to two. In Paris, even higher at 2.15.
Chicago is a few degrees hotter in summer than Paris.
Are we even comparing like with like here?

Very poor....

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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/weather/St...282372,00.html


A very vague and not particularly useful article.
They say that heatwaves will increase by x amount but no indication
is given as to the definition of a heatwave.

Also they say that the increase in the number of heatwaves will
be higher in Paris than in Chicago.
Is the definition of a heatwave the same in Paris as it is in Chicago?
They say that in Chicago the average number of heatwaves per year
will increase by 25% to two. In Paris, even higher at 2.15.
Chicago is a few degrees hotter in summer than Paris.
Are we even comparing like with like here?

Very poor....

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What do you expect from the Guardian. That newspaper should stick to its
political comment sections, which are excellent, and stay away from the
science. The two don't mix.



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"Col" wrote in message
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/weather/St...282372,00.html


A very vague and not particularly useful article.
They say that heatwaves will increase by x amount but no indication
is given as to the definition of a heatwave.

Also they say that the increase in the number of heatwaves will
be higher in Paris than in Chicago.
Is the definition of a heatwave the same in Paris as it is in Chicago?
They say that in Chicago the average number of heatwaves per year
will increase by 25% to two. In Paris, even higher at 2.15.
Chicago is a few degrees hotter in summer than Paris.
Are we even comparing like with like here?

Very poor....

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What do you expect from the Guardian. That newspaper should stick to its
political comment sections, which are excellent, and stay away from the
science. The two don't mix.




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http://www.guardian.co.uk/weather/St...282372,00.html


A very vague and not particularly useful article.
They say that heatwaves will increase by x amount but no indication
is given as to the definition of a heatwave.

Also they say that the increase in the number of heatwaves will
be higher in Paris than in Chicago.
Is the definition of a heatwave the same in Paris as it is in Chicago?
They say that in Chicago the average number of heatwaves per year
will increase by 25% to two. In Paris, even higher at 2.15.
Chicago is a few degrees hotter in summer than Paris.
Are we even comparing like with like here?

Very poor....

Col
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What do you expect from the Guardian. That newspaper should stick to its
political comment sections, which are excellent, and stay away from the
science. The two don't mix.


Well then, here is a report from the BBC about the same Science article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3559426.stm

Cheers, Alastair.




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What do you expect from the Guardian. That newspaper should stick to

its
political comment sections, which are excellent, and stay away from the
science. The two don't mix.





Problem is Gavin, they are pretty inseperable. They influence each other. By
the way I'm pretty sure this article is not particularly politically
motivated


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What do you expect from the Guardian. That newspaper should stick to its
political comment sections, which are excellent, and stay away from the
science. The two don't mix.


How can The Guardian "stay away" from science? It has a duty to report
things and here it has done so, without sensationalising it.
What the Guardian ought not to do, however, is editorialise in its main
headline, something it never used to do. The worst example was in November
2000, when the Medway flooded and the headline was - "Global Warming. It's
with us now". They don't know enough about the subject to print that in 72 pt
bold.

Tudor Hughes (Grauniad reader for 40+ yrs.)
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Whatever the content (which is the most important thing I agree), you can't
deny the headline, *wherever* you live.

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Whatever the content (which is the most important thing I agree), you can't
deny the headline, *wherever* you live.


Since we have always had heatwaves, such a headline couldn't
have been denied 50 or 100 years ago.

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Actualy, after reading some of their political stuff ,I think they should
stick to science !

RonB

"Col" wrote in message
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"dannyj" wrote in message
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Whatever the content (which is the most important thing I agree), you

can't
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Since we have always had heatwaves, such a headline couldn't
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