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Default Ivan - direct hit at Grenada


Seems to be a pretty nasty situation in Grenada as it was directly hit
by hurricane Ivan on Tuesday evening.
Ivan seems to have been on the border between 3 to 4 on the
Saffir-Simpson scale at the time.

Here's an URL that goes into the situation:
http://www.stormcarib.com/reports/2004/grenada.shtml

It is likened to the aftermath in Hiroshima, 85% of buildings
destroyed, all trees down, power, telephone, radio, water out!!

Bjørn Sørheim

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Default Ivan - Now a Category 5


"Bjørn Sørheim" wrote
Seems to be a pretty nasty situation in Grenada as it was directly hit
by hurricane Ivan on Tuesday evening.
Ivan seems to have been on the border between 3 to 4 on the
Saffir-Simpson scale at the time.


WTNT34 KNHC 090543
TCPAT4
BULLETIN
HURRICANE IVAN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 27A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2 AM AST THU SEP 09 2004

....EXTREMELY DANGEROUS IVAN STRENGTHENS INTO A CATEGORY 5
HURRICANE OVER THE SOUTH-CENTRAL CARIBBEAN SEA...

See: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh.../022031.shtml?

I knew I hadn't dreamt it when I posted a report of the possibility of
this, the other day

- Tom.


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Max sustained winds increased from 145MPH to 160MPH in 3 hours!

Extract from Public advisory #27 (3am GMT 9/9/04)
IVAN IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR
145 MPH...230 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. SOME ADDITIONAL
STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE TONIGHT...FOLLOWED BY FLUCTUATIONS IN
STRENGTH.

Extract from Public advisory #27A (6am GMT 9/9/04)
RECENT REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT
INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NOW NEAR 160 MPH...255
KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.


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Extract from public advisory update 0635 AST (1035Z) 09/09/04

AN AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INVESTIGATING IVAN
THIS MORNING RECENTLY REPORTED...AT 614 AM AST OR 1014Z...A
FLIGHT-LEVEL WIND OF 154 KT IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT. THEY ALSO
REPORTED A LOWER CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 920 MB...SUGGESTING THAT IVAN
MAY CONTAIN SURFACE WINDS A LITTLE STRONGER THAN THE 160 MPH
INDICATED IN THE 5 AM AST ADVISORY. DROPSONDE WIND REPORTS ALSO
INDICATED WINDS OF NEAR 210 MPH AT AN ALTITUDE OF ABOUT 350 FEET
ABOVE THE OCEAN SURFACE.


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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:19:35 +0000 (UTC), "Jim"
wrote:

Extract from public advisory update 0635 AST (1035Z) 09/09/04

AN AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INVESTIGATING IVAN
THIS MORNING RECENTLY REPORTED...AT 614 AM AST OR 1014Z...A
FLIGHT-LEVEL WIND OF 154 KT IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT. THEY ALSO
REPORTED A LOWER CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 920 MB...SUGGESTING THAT IVAN
MAY CONTAIN SURFACE WINDS A LITTLE STRONGER THAN THE 160 MPH
INDICATED IN THE 5 AM AST ADVISORY. DROPSONDE WIND REPORTS ALSO
INDICATED WINDS OF NEAR 210 MPH AT AN ALTITUDE OF ABOUT 350 FEET
ABOVE THE OCEAN SURFACE.



210 mph at 350 feet ! One shudders to think what the sea surface must be like
under those conditions.

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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:38:40 +0100, "Brendan DJ Murphy"
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Max sustained winds increased from 145MPH to 160MPH in 3 hours!

Extract from Public advisory #27 (3am GMT 9/9/04)
IVAN IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR
145 MPH...230 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. SOME ADDITIONAL
STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE TONIGHT...FOLLOWED BY FLUCTUATIONS IN
STRENGTH.

Extract from Public advisory #27A (6am GMT 9/9/04)
RECENT REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT
INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NOW NEAR 160 MPH...255
KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.

That's category five, and it gets worse. Extract from today's 11 am
GMT NHC Discussion on Ivan:
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/at200409.disc.html

"The upper-level outflow pattern is impressive and well-established
....And if anything...will only get better for the next 72-96 hours.
Therefore...the future intensity will likely be modulated by inner-
core convective changes and land interaction since th water ahead of
Ivan is only forecast to get warmer...as warm as 30c south of Cuba
and over the Florida Straits."

So, Ivan is currently forecast to:

- Cross Jamaica as a strong cat. 4 bordering on cat. 5.
- Cross Cuba as a Cat 4.
- reach Florida as a Cat 3 or Cat 4.

This is not good.

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Default Ivan - direct hit at Grenada

Yn erthygl , sgrifennodd
Dave Ludlow :
- Cross Jamaica as a strong cat. 4 bordering on cat. 5.
- Cross Cuba as a Cat 4.
- reach Florida as a Cat 3 or Cat 4.

This is not good.


So this will be the third hurricane in a month to hit Florida; 2, they
said, was highly unusual. But 3? Whether or not this is a result of global
warming, just maybe George Bush will start to come on board with the
rest of the world in doing something about emissions now, especially with a
brother to look after in the hurricane's path. When it starts to hit
home... ?

Adrian
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