http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this the
leader strike?

it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......



"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in message
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http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this the
leader strike?

I wonder what the were cooking for green smoke



"john the fletch" wrote in message
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it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......



"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in message
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http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this the
leader strike?

"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in message
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I wonder what the were cooking for green smoke



"john the fletch" wrote in message
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it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......



"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in message
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http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this
the
leader strike?



IMHO it is a fake. I base this on close inspection in photoshop. There is no
sign of any refelection in the right place, but I could be wrong and it
could be a leader.
Steve

That's either an artefact, fake or somebody's got the upward leader. IMHO
it's a bit bright, I thought they were fainter than that??

Les

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In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this the
leader strike?




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"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in message
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I wonder what the were cooking for green smoke
"john the fletch" wrote in message
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it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......
"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in message
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http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this
the
leader strike?



IMHO it is a fake. I base this on close inspection in photoshop. There is no
sign of any refelection in the right place, but I could be wrong and it
could be a leader.
Steve


Strange, I can see the reflection of the leader just fine, it appears
not to go straight up (relatively) but to be tilted away from the viewer
making the reflection appear shorter. Makes sense since the main strike
hit behind the hill.
--
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"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in message
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I wonder what the were cooking for green smoke
"john the fletch" wrote in message
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it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......
"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in
message
...

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this
the
leader strike?



IMHO it is a fake. I base this on close inspection in photoshop. There is
no
sign of any refelection in the right place, but I could be wrong and it
could be a leader.
Steve


Strange, I can see the reflection of the leader just fine, it appears
not to go straight up (relatively) but to be tilted away from the viewer
making the reflection appear shorter. Makes sense since the main strike
hit behind the hill.
--
Chris

I agree there is a refelection, but i still feel it is in the wrong place.

I have software that will create lightning on an image and it looks prity
convincing when its done. It is the colour and position that makes me
unsure. Leaders are also more white in images I have seen and taken.
The green is also default setting in one of the most comon lightning
producting filters that you can use with PSP or PS. The leader stands out
far too much though, they are never that bright.

I am also wondering if its a refelection in the camera caused buy the filter
elements as the main strike in the image as it is very bright.

To be honist and fair if it was not for the suspect leader the image is a
very good shot.

I stick with my gut feeling... fake.
Steve

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IMHO it is a fake. I base this on close inspection in photoshop. There is
no
sign of any refelection in the right place, but I could be wrong and it
could be a leader.
Steve


Strange, I can see the reflection of the leader just fine, it appears
not to go straight up (relatively) but to be tilted away from the viewer
making the reflection appear shorter. Makes sense since the main strike
hit behind the hill.
--
Chris

I agree there is a refelection, but i still feel it is in the wrong place.

I have software that will create lightning on an image and it looks prity
convincing when its done. It is the colour and position that makes me
unsure. Leaders are also more white in images I have seen and taken.
The green is also default setting in one of the most comon lightning
producting filters that you can use with PSP or PS. The leader stands out
far too much though, they are never that bright.

I am also wondering if its a refelection in the camera caused buy the filter
elements as the main strike in the image as it is very bright.

To be honist and fair if it was not for the suspect leader the image is a
very good shot.

I stick with my gut feeling... fake.
Steve

Interesting, I found this whilst "googling":

http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2004/...322688964.html

Another exposure, from the same spot but looks like a different strike.
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IMHO it is a fake. I base this on close inspection in photoshop. There is
no
sign of any refelection in the right place, but I could be wrong and it
could be a leader.
Steve


Strange, I can see the reflection of the leader just fine, it appears
not to go straight up (relatively) but to be tilted away from the viewer
making the reflection appear shorter. Makes sense since the main strike
hit behind the hill.
--
Chris

I agree there is a refelection, but i still feel it is in the wrong place.

I have software that will create lightning on an image and it looks prity
convincing when its done. It is the colour and position that makes me
unsure. Leaders are also more white in images I have seen and taken.
The green is also default setting in one of the most comon lightning
producting filters that you can use with PSP or PS. The leader stands out
far too much though, they are never that bright.

I am also wondering if its a refelection in the camera caused buy the filter
elements as the main strike in the image as it is very bright.

To be honist and fair if it was not for the suspect leader the image is a
very good shot.

I stick with my gut feeling... fake.
Steve

Interesting, I found this whilst "googling":

http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2004/...322688964.html

Another exposure, from the same spot but looks like a different strike.

That reflection appears to be a from a light... If you scale the 2nd
image so that you can overlay the first one on top, and toggle between
them, it becomes clearer... As for the leader, well, who knows only
the chap who took the picture can say for certain.
--
Chris Sumner

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:18:06 +0100, "Stephen Sumner,
YachtingUniverse.com" wrote:

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this the
leader strike?


If it's not an photographic artefact or a fake, it is likely to be the
ground stroke, the one that is induced at the ground and goes up to
meet the stepped leader.

Martin