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I just had this animation shown to me:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/cmoll/cmoll.html

It's interesting, to me at least, how all the tropical Atlantic stuff
seems to originate near the horn of Africa. Hurricane Ivan's later
life cycle can be seen clearly, culminating in the later images in the
cloud that is over us at the moment.

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http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/cmoll/cmoll.html


It's interesting, to me at least, how all the tropical Atlantic stuff
seems to originate near the horn of Africa.



What struck me was the singularity type behaviour of these hurricane
types currents. (If I understand the term.) Notice the brief swirl from
South America to Southern Africa about 3/4 of the way through.

And the direction of rotation of depressions once they get into the
Arctic Ocean from the Atlantic. How much of this is due to the
projection I wonder.

Great stuff though. Soon on-chip motherboards and on modem chips will
make this stuff available to anyone with a phone.

Glad I'm not waiting for that!


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I just had this animation shown to me:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/cmoll/cmoll.html

It's interesting, to me at least, how all the tropical Atlantic stuff
seems to originate near the horn of Africa. Hurricane Ivan's later
life cycle can be seen clearly, culminating in the later images in the
cloud that is over us at the moment.


Love it! Now I want one for an entire year!

What is the nature of the tropical storm/hurricane like features
that seem to originate from the Panama region and drift out south
of Mexico in the first in the half of the sequence? I have vaguely
heard that you get hurricanes in this region but of course due to the
topography they are unlikely to ever make landfall.

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Great stuff though. Soon on-chip motherboards and on modem chips will
make this stuff available to anyone with a phone.

Glad I'm not waiting for that!



One good thing about it: it will stop people writing for Internet
Exposer. What Sun MicroSytems and IBM are waiting first, I can not
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Love it! Now I want one for an entire year!


Me too. Why have we been kept waiting so long. (Mind you the reanalyses
projections can do something similar in Windows XP.)

What is the nature of the tropical storm/hurricane like features
that seem to originate from the Panama region and drift out south
of Mexico in the first in the half of the sequence? I have vaguely
heard that you get hurricanes in this region but of course due to the
topography they are unlikely to ever make landfall.


How about this for a guess: The Southern Atlantic has no continental
boundaries.

Am I the only one who thinks that the northern half of the Atlantic is a
basin that has a downspout in the middle and surging tornadic updraughts
circulating about it rather in the manner of a largeish hurricane?

I bet the Jupitans wonder what causes it and why it has lasted so long.


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:Am I the only one who thinks that the northern half of the Atlantic is a
:basin that has a downspout in the middle and surging tornadic updraughts
:circulating about it rather in the manner of a largeish hurricane?

Yes, I think you probably are.

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In uk.sci.weather on Thu, 23 Sep 2004 at 05:55:54, Col wrote :

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I just had this animation shown to me:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/cmoll/cmoll.html

It's interesting, to me at least, how all the tropical Atlantic stuff
seems to originate near the horn of Africa. Hurricane Ivan's later
life cycle can be seen clearly, culminating in the later images in the
cloud that is over us at the moment.


Love it! Now I want one for an entire year!


Something very loosely related :

I recently bought Star Trek (original series) S1, and in the episode
'Tomorrow Is Yesterday' they showed a shot of the Earth without a single
cloud on it! Surely even on their 1960's budget they could have afforded
a pot of paint to draw a few white swirls?

AFAIK, the series didn't pre-date the first weather satellites, so
surely pictures of the earth from orbit must have existed to work from.
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I recently bought Star Trek (original series) S1, and in the episode
'Tomorrow Is Yesterday' they showed a shot of the Earth without a single
cloud on it! Surely even on their 1960's budget they could have afforded
a pot of paint to draw a few white swirls?

AFAIK, the series didn't pre-date the first weather satellites, so
surely pictures of the earth from orbit must have existed to work from.


And even if it did they would have been able to have a pretty good
stab at what earth from space looked like. They would have known
where it was likely to be clear and where cloud was likely.
I believe the Norwegian models for Atlantic depressions (1920's?)
hinted at a banded/spiral nature to them though that was long before
anybody could possibly have observed them from space.

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"Colin Youngs" wrote in message


Michael Mcneil wrote in message ...
:Am I the only one who thinks that the northern half of the Atlantic is a
:basin that has a downspout in the middle and surging tornadic updraughts
:circulating about it rather in the manner of a largeish hurricane?


Yes, I think you probably are.




Pity I'm most likely the worst one here for having difficulty with
fractals then, isn't it.

I suppose that like Newton and Whittle I'll have to invent a new branch
of mathematics so I can explain it to you lot.

That third will be a first and an half.

I wonder if I could translate it into accoustics. I might have a chance
then.

Hmmmmm.....


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AFAIK, the series didn't pre-date the first weather satellites, so
surely pictures of the earth from orbit must have existed to work from.


And even if it did they would have been able to have a pretty good
stab at what earth from space looked like.


Perhaps in the 24th(?) Century they "had" some sort of earth scanner
that
could see through the clouds?


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