Small? Nation? I think you're confused already! Or I am. 60 million ppl
is not small. What is a nation?

Adrian

By "Small", I was referring to area, not population.
To use the argument that multiple timezones works in USA is not a good
analogy of our scenario.

By "Nation", I am implying about the name of the country as printed on the
front cover of your passport. That is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain
and Northern Ireland"
(That means, England, Scotland, Wales and Nothern Ireland. I dont want to
start a debate on the definition of what a country is.)

Splitting that political area into timezones is a bit like splitting a
geographical area the size of Florida into different timezones. It wont
work.

Its just asking for unnecessary confusion. Or is it just an opportunity
for the Scots to glee and to prove that they are "independant" ?

Brendan

In message , Paul C
writes
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:09:00 +0100, "Brendan DJ Murphy"
wrote:

I can never understand this argument...
Split times between England and Scotland is just asking for unnecessary
confusion within media and transportation industries.


If the Scots want brighter mornings, then the simple answer is to the
Scotch to get up one hour later!

The solution is simple....
Just get all th Scottish businesses and schools to change their opening
times from 9am to 10am


Everyone wins.

There's a certain illogicality here. Surely the rational thing is to
stick with GMT which, after all, represents our correct time zone, and
if people in England want to enjoy lighter evenings they should start
work an hour earlier.


Well said (and I am in southern England).
--
Tim

In message , No-One
writes

"Steve Jones" wrote in message
...
Just read this story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3732690.stm

Do we really want twilight to end at around 11:30 in June? I like it
dark when I go to bed!

I can see the advantage for the Winter months however.


Steve

It's about time we scrapped GMT. Personally I'm sick of going to work in the
dark, then finishing work in the dark. It can't be healthy to only see
natural light at the weekends.


Work less hours in winter then :-)
--
Tim

"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
...

The arguments about accidents in Scotland caused by going to work and
school in the dark are weak because this is offset (more than offset
according to some studies, certainly in England) by an increase in
accidents in the darker afternoons. So set it - whatever it is - then
leave it alone.

Whatever they do, there will always be someone who will complain
that it has caused accidents at a certain time of day. Instead of
bleating on about this why not teach kids about road safety properly,
especially in the dark? Judging by the suicidal things I see kids doing
on the roads, this is not being done.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

Col wrote:
"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
...


The arguments about accidents in Scotland caused by going to work and
school in the dark are weak because this is offset (more than offset
according to some studies, certainly in England) by an increase in
accidents in the darker afternoons. So set it - whatever it is - then
leave it alone.


Whatever they do, there will always be someone who will complain
that it has caused accidents at a certain time of day. Instead of
bleating on about this why not teach kids about road safety properly,
especially in the dark? Judging by the suicidal things I see kids doing
on the roads, this is not being done.

Col

It's not just kids. In this town, 70% of cyclists don't use lights at
night.

Graham
Bracknell

Col wrote:
"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
...


The arguments about accidents in Scotland caused by going to work and
school in the dark are weak because this is offset (more than offset
according to some studies, certainly in England) by an increase in
accidents in the darker afternoons. So set it - whatever it is - then
leave it alone.


Whatever they do, there will always be someone who will complain
that it has caused accidents at a certain time of day. Instead of
bleating on about this why not teach kids about road safety properly,
especially in the dark? Judging by the suicidal things I see kids doing
on the roads, this is not being done.

Col

I totally agree on teaching children about road safety. On Tuesday, a
young woman with mobile stuck to ear, also got run over by a bus I was
on. If it wasn't for the foresight of the bus driver, she would of been
in hospital or mortuary by now.

Joe
Wolverhampton

Yn erthygl , sgrifennodd
Paul C :
There's a certain illogicality here. Surely the rational thing is to
stick with GMT which, after all, represents our correct time zone, and
if people in England want to enjoy lighter evenings they should start
work an hour earlier.

I sort of agree. But that means businesses would have to work 8-4 (or
7:45-4:15) instead of their current hours. We'd have to persuade the TV
and radio schedulers to bring their programmes forwards an hour (otherwise
people just wouldn't get used to it), we'd have to change our ingrained
thinking about each hour's position in the day, etc.

It's easier to legislate a change to our clocks than to do the above.

Adrian
--
Adrian Shaw ais@
Adran Cyfrifiadureg, Prifysgol Cymru, aber.
Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Cymru ac.
http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais uk

"Joe" wrote in message
...


I totally agree on teaching children about road safety. On Tuesday, a
young woman with mobile stuck to ear, also got run over by a bus I was
on. If it wasn't for the foresight of the bus driver, she would of been
in hospital or mortuary by now.

Whatever happened to those reflective orange armbands that kids like
me wore in the dark during the 70's?
I suspect that today they would be regarded as 'uncool' as they would
probably clash with the far more important fashion statements that
kids make today.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

"Jeremy Rogers" wrote in message
...
"Col" in message
wrote:

Whatever happened to those reflective orange armbands that kids like
me wore in the dark during the 70's?

As I recall the main distribution of these were at the introduction of
British Standard Time, so that kids could be seen in the dark mornings.
There was also a big promotion on child road safety at the same time.

The Tufty Club (still a proud member!) and the Green Cross Code man.
I guess they still do road safety promotions at school but I wonder if they
have been pushed to the sidelines as they won't count towards placings
in the league tables?

Cynical?
Well I hope so......

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

Col wrote:
"Jeremy Rogers" wrote in message
...

"Col" in message
wrote:


Whatever happened to those reflective orange armbands that kids like
me wore in the dark during the 70's?

As I recall the main distribution of these were at the introduction of
British Standard Time, so that kids could be seen in the dark mornings.
There was also a big promotion on child road safety at the same time.


The Tufty Club (still a proud member!) and the Green Cross Code man.
I guess they still do road safety promotions at school but I wonder if they
have been pushed to the sidelines as they won't count towards placings
in the league tables?

Cynical?
Well I hope so......

Col

Probably against the children human rights, to teach them to cross the
road properly, it interferes with there freedom to cross the road the
way they like.

Joe
Wolverhampton