Being a RM fan I must, however, admit that he has verged on the theatrical
at times this year (and pause) but he is still a lot better than most.

On a lighter note it was nice to see Isabell Lang back looking radiant and
in clear form.

brian
aberfeldy

What channel is that Caberet on by the way as it sounds rather good?


"TudorHgh" wrote in message
...
I've just listened to Rob McElwee's R4 0030 forecast wanting to know
roughly how wet it will be on Tuesday, and when it'll arrive, and I'm none
the
wiser.
McElwee's style and delivery must be one of the most irritating
features
on radio, all jokey little asides, clever-clever little remarks all
delivered
in that nasal mincing cod-intimate way he has. He seems to think he's
doing a
late-nite cabaret spot for an invited audience of weathermen. Someone
ought to
tell him that the purpose of a weather forecast is to disseminate
easily-assimilated information about the weather. The great Fish was good
at
it, delivering it straight and suppressing his considerable ego in a
totally
professional manner.
I've now (an hour later) seen a few charts and can now say about
McElwee's broadcast "oh, that's what he meant". Few others will have
bothered,
though.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

"TudorHgh" wrote in message
...
Well, that was a waste of time, wasn't it? I was talking about radio,
which no-one seems to have realised.

Not a waste of time at all. We've got a lively discussion about the
styles of various presenters.
And yes, I *have* heard Rob McElwee on the radio and his
verbal style seems very similar to that on the TV.

I then broadened it a little and went onto talk about the TV forecasts
of another presenter. I wonder what *he'd* be like on the radio?

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
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http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

In article ,
Col writes:

"TudorHgh" wrote in message
...
Well, that was a waste of time, wasn't it? I was talking about radio,
which no-one seems to have realised.

Not a waste of time at all. We've got a lively discussion about the
styles of various presenters.
And yes, I *have* heard Rob McElwee on the radio and his
verbal style seems very similar to that on the TV.

Which perhaps is a mistake on his part? What works well on TV may not
always be right for radio. The listener isn't receiving any information
additional to what is in your words, so it's absolutely vital that you
are clear and don't leave out anything important.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

And we all know what the next irritating phrase is that will be upon us very
soon dont we?
Think about it!!

Wait for it!

AT LEAST IT WILL BE MILD!!!
Ha, Ha, Ha.


"TudorHgh" wrote in message
...
I've just listened to Rob McElwee's R4 0030 forecast wanting to know
roughly how wet it will be on Tuesday, and when it'll arrive, and I'm none
the
wiser.
McElwee's style and delivery must be one of the most irritating
features
on radio, all jokey little asides, clever-clever little remarks all
delivered
in that nasal mincing cod-intimate way he has. He seems to think he's
doing a
late-nite cabaret spot for an invited audience of weathermen. Someone
ought to
tell him that the purpose of a weather forecast is to disseminate
easily-assimilated information about the weather. The great Fish was good
at
it, delivering it straight and suppressing his considerable ego in a
totally
professional manner.
I've now (an hour later) seen a few charts and can now say about
McElwee's broadcast "oh, that's what he meant". Few others will have
bothered,
though.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Tudor

I agree totally with what you say, his style has grown so eccentric
now that any information that he is trying to convey gets lost in his
unscripted ramblings.

Bruce.

(TudorHgh) wrote in message ...
I've just listened to Rob McElwee's R4 0030 forecast wanting to know
roughly how wet it will be on Tuesday, and when it'll arrive, and I'm none the
wiser.
McElwee's style and delivery must be one of the most irritating features
on radio, all jokey little asides, clever-clever little remarks all delivered
in that nasal mincing cod-intimate way he has. He seems to think he's doing a
late-nite cabaret spot for an invited audience of weathermen. Someone ought to
tell him that the purpose of a weather forecast is to disseminate
easily-assimilated information about the weather. The great Fish was good at
it, delivering it straight and suppressing his considerable ego in a totally
professional manner.
I've now (an hour later) seen a few charts and can now say about
McElwee's broadcast "oh, that's what he meant". Few others will have bothered,
though.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

udor

I agree totally with what you say, his style has grown so eccentric
now that any information that he is trying to convey gets lost in his
unscripted ramblings.

Bruce.

McElwee is not bad on television, certainly better than some of the
people mentioned, but radio requires a different approach and he simply hasn't
got it.
I wonder if they receive any specific training for radio as distinct
from television. I doubt it, if this sort of stuff is the result. Radio4
weather has come a long way, all of it downhill, since the days of people like
Bob Prichard, David Membery and others.

Tudor Hughes.

No I am not going to get into the debate about the forecasters per se but
what I do find very irritatiing is this new little catch phrase of "a slow
start" that more than one forecaster has used recently. It has been said in
calm, misty or foggy conditions but equally it has been used on a wet,
cloudy morning. When it is sunny but a calm or just a light wind I have not
heard it used so I presume it is not a slow start in fine weather and has
nothing to do with wind. Is it an expression peculiar to a particular part
of the British Isles. But what a woolly term that could mean anything.
Perhaps as I am involved with the weather so much I am taking things too
seriously.
Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.frostedearth.com





"TudorHgh" wrote in message
...
udor

I agree totally with what you say, his style has grown so eccentric
now that any information that he is trying to convey gets lost in his
unscripted ramblings.

Bruce.

McElwee is not bad on television, certainly better than some of the
people mentioned, but radio requires a different approach and he simply
hasn't
got it.
I wonder if they receive any specific training for radio as
distinct
from television. I doubt it, if this sort of stuff is the result. Radio4
weather has come a long way, all of it downhill, since the days of people
like
Bob Prichard, David Membery and others.

Tudor Hughes.

I know what you mean but it hasn't bothered me too much. I like him
because his personality does at least show through and he's not been
straightjacketed into the formal standardised UKMO/BBC style. I can well
imagine the Producers having kittens over his presentations:

etc etc...

) Love it!

In message , Ian
Currie writes
No I am not going to get into the debate about the forecasters per se but
what I do find very irritatiing is this new little catch phrase of "a slow
start" that more than one forecaster has used recently. It has been said in
calm, misty or foggy conditions but equally it has been used on a wet,
cloudy morning. When it is sunny but a calm or just a light wind I have not
heard it used so I presume it is not a slow start in fine weather and has
nothing to do with wind. Is it an expression peculiar to a particular part
of the British Isles. But what a woolly term that could mean anything.
Perhaps as I am involved with the weather so much I am taking things too
seriously.
Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.frostedearth.com

It probably comes from the same source as "taking the edge off the
temperatures".

Norman.
(delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail)
--
Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles
England

In message , TudorHgh
writes
I've just listened to Rob McElwee's R4 0030 forecast wanting to know
roughly how wet it will be on Tuesday, and when it'll arrive, and I'm none the
wiser.
McElwee's style and delivery must be one of the most irritating features
on radio, all jokey little asides, clever-clever little remarks all delivered
in that nasal mincing cod-intimate way he has. He seems to think he's doing a
late-nite cabaret spot for an invited audience of weathermen. Someone ought to
tell him that the purpose of a weather forecast is to disseminate
easily-assimilated information about the weather. The great Fish was good at
it, delivering it straight and suppressing his considerable ego in a totally
professional manner.
I've now (an hour later) seen a few charts and can now say about
McElwee's broadcast "oh, that's what he meant". Few others will have bothered,
though.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
Sorry to disagree Tudor - but I reckon Rob's presentation is second to
none - apart from Bert Ford of course.
Cheers
Paul.
--
Paul Bartlett