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a eruption in vatnajökull began 1 of november at 22,00 hrs
a flood is expected and has began today. ashfall has taken place in a few places in Iceland. the glacier was about 200 meter thick and the eruption melted the ice quite soon. a battle of fire and ice. here is a video link from the first pictures 2 of november http://www.visir.is/?PageID=34&url=h...276/frett1.wmv here is a english link from the icelandic met office about the event http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/englishweb/index.html a sviss satelite page of the Eruption of Grimsvoetn http://saturn.unibe.ch/rsbern/noaa/grimsvoetnnov04.html Thor. |
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I have put two images from this afternoon's noaa12 pass over Iceland on my
web page. The second one is a thermal image that clearly shows the pulsating nature of the event. Minimum plume temperatures at that time were -54.7C. http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham...1613-h-ic.html http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham...1613-i-ic.html -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html "thor" wrote in message om... a eruption in vatnajökull began 1 of november at 22,00 hrs a flood is expected and has began today. ashfall has taken place in a few places in Iceland. the glacier was about 200 meter thick and the eruption melted the ice quite soon. a battle of fire and ice. here is a video link from the first pictures 2 of november http://www.visir.is/?PageID=34&url=h...fnistod2/clips /2004_11/1276/frett1.wmv here is a english link from the icelandic met office about the event http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/englishweb/index.html a sviss satelite page of the Eruption of Grimsvoetn http://saturn.unibe.ch/rsbern/noaa/grimsvoetnnov04.html Thor. |
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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 20:12:47 -0000, Bernard Burton wrote in
I have put two images from this afternoon's noaa12 pass over Iceland on my web page. The second one is a thermal image that clearly shows the pulsating nature of the event. Minimum plume temperatures at that time were -54.7C. http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham...1613-h-ic.html http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham...1613-i-ic.html I am fascinated by such a low temperature, Bernard. Have you any idea of what height the plume would have to be to record one as low as that? -- Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 02/11/2004 21:02:28 UTC |
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Can't be certain, Mike, as the initial source temperatures of the plume are
unknown, but assuming efficient mixing between the plume and its surrounding air, according to the Keflavik ascent for 12Z, which has a trop at about 8.5 km, -48C, the plume would be reaching a height of about 9.5 to 10 km to give those temperatures. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html "Mike Tullett" wrote in message ... On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 20:12:47 -0000, Bernard Burton wrote in I have put two images from this afternoon's noaa12 pass over Iceland on my web page. The second one is a thermal image that clearly shows the pulsating nature of the event. Minimum plume temperatures at that time were -54.7C. http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham...1613-h-ic.html http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham...1613-i-ic.html I am fascinated by such a low temperature, Bernard. Have you any idea of what height the plume would have to be to record one as low as that? -- Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 02/11/2004 21:02:28 UTC |
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"Bernard Burton" wrote in message...
Can't be certain, Mike, as the initial source temperatures of the plume are unknown, but assuming efficient mixing between the plume and its surrounding air, according to the Keflavik ascent for 12Z, which has a trop at about 8.5 km, -48C, the plume would be reaching a height of about 9.5 to 10 km to give those temperatures. Bernard Given Thor's comment that ash falls have taken place in Iceland and your estimate of plume height I would have expected charts 1 and 2 on this site to have been updated: http://weather.noaa.gov/fax/otherfax.shtml However, a brief search on google led to this page: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/VAAC/OTH/UK/messages.html Note the confirmed height 'FL400' Karl Cooper, Orkney |
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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 23:05:26 -0000, Karl Cooper wrote in
snip Given Thor's comment that ash falls have taken place in Iceland and your estimate of plume height I would have expected charts 1 and 2 on this site to have been updated: http://weather.noaa.gov/fax/otherfax.shtml However, a brief search on google led to this page: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/VAAC/OTH/UK/messages.html Note the confirmed height 'FL400' The charts still haven't been updated but now there is reference to "FL550" in the 0600Z advisory. That's one heck of a height. -- Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 03/11/2004 10:04:08 UTC |
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Hi Guys from a non-technical lurker!
ITV Teletext is reporting that some flights (59 from Schipol in Amsterdam are quoted) from/in Europe have been cancelled due to ash plume from Icelandic volcano. Peter -- Peter D Corser Leighton Buzzard Beds UK "Mike Tullett" wrote in message ... On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 23:05:26 -0000, Karl Cooper wrote in snip Given Thor's comment that ash falls have taken place in Iceland and your estimate of plume height I would have expected charts 1 and 2 on this site to have been updated: http://weather.noaa.gov/fax/otherfax.shtml However, a brief search on google led to this page: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/VAAC/OTH/UK/messages.html Note the confirmed height 'FL400' The charts still haven't been updated but now there is reference to "FL550" in the 0600Z advisory. That's one heck of a height. -- Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 03/11/2004 10:04:08 UTC |
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On Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:48:55 UTC, Peter Corser wrote:
Hi Guys from a non-technical lurker! ITV Teletext is reporting that some flights (59 from Schipol in Amsterdam are quoted) from/in Europe have been cancelled due to ash plume from Icelandic volcano. Peter -- Peter D Corser Leighton Buzzard Beds UK "Mike Tullett" wrote in message ... On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 23:05:26 -0000, Karl Cooper wrote in snip Given Thor's comment that ash falls have taken place in Iceland and your estimate of plume height I would have expected charts 1 and 2 on this site to have been updated: http://weather.noaa.gov/fax/otherfax.shtml However, a brief search on google led to this page: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/VAAC/OTH/UK/messages.html Note the confirmed height 'FL400' The charts still haven't been updated but now there is reference to "FL550" in the 0600Z advisory. That's one heck of a height. -- Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 03/11/2004 10:04:08 UTC If MrBurton is relying on satellite data he may well be measuring the top of the plume which is going through the ionosphere on a direct connection to the sun. Where is the nearest place I could get weather records for 2004? |
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