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With higher activity of sun spots recently, perhaps we are in for a another
repeat of the same past mild winters.

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"Keith Dancey" wrote in message
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In article , "Paul Alcock"

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With higher activity of sun spots recently, perhaps we are in for a another
repeat of the same past mild winters.



Sun spots, per se, have no effect upon the Earth's climate.


Huh! Citation please.

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1947 (near peak of solar cycle 18) Severe winter.

1976: Solar minimum. Very hot summer. (and to a lesser extent 1995)

1979 and 1981/2: Near solar maximum. Some very cold and severe winter
weather.

1989 and 1990. Solar maximum. Two hot summers.
February 1991. Some of the highest solar flux readings of Cycle 22. One of
the coldest spells of the 90's



'Nuff said.


Jim, Bournemouth.


OK, I should have remembered that solar maximums prevent the intergalactic
cosmic rays from reaching the Earth, and seeding the clouds. That will lead
to colder winters :-) but less snow :-(

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1947 (near peak of solar cycle 18) Severe winter.

1976: Solar minimum. Very hot summer. (and to a lesser extent 1995)

1979 and 1981/2: Near solar maximum. Some very cold and severe winter
weather.

1989 and 1990. Solar maximum. Two hot summers.
February 1991. Some of the highest solar flux readings of Cycle 22. One of
the coldest spells of the 90's



'Nuff said.


Jim, Bournemouth.




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"Keith Dancey" wrote in message
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In article , "Paul Alcock"

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With higher activity of sun spots recently, perhaps we are in for a
another
repeat of the same past mild winters.



Sun spots, per se, have no effect upon the Earth's climate.


Huh! Citation please.

Cheers, Alastair.






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So what happened this time around then, where's my cold winter?

Shaun Pudwell.


"Jim Smith" wrote in message
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1947 (near peak of solar cycle 18) Severe winter.

1976: Solar minimum. Very hot summer. (and to a lesser extent 1995)

1979 and 1981/2: Near solar maximum. Some very cold and severe winter
weather.

1989 and 1990. Solar maximum. Two hot summers.
February 1991. Some of the highest solar flux readings of Cycle 22. One of
the coldest spells of the 90's



'Nuff said.


Jim, Bournemouth.




"Alastair McDonald" k

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"Keith Dancey" wrote in message
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In article , "Paul Alcock"

writes:

With higher activity of sun spots recently, perhaps we are in for a
another
repeat of the same past mild winters.


Sun spots, per se, have no effect upon the Earth's climate.


Huh! Citation please.

Cheers, Alastair.






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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:39:58 +0000 (UTC), Keith Dancey wrote in


Huh! Citation please.


It's well documented. Just think about the energy in a solar flare
compared to the solar flux. About ten orders of magnitude difference,
which is why Piers Corbyn's ludicrous "forecasts" are treated with
utter contempt.

Don't confuse an isolated sun spot, or two, with the solar cycle: we
are currently close to a solar minimum on the 11 year pattern.


As shown on this graph from NOAA.

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/

Typically now sun spot numbers are about 25 compared with 125 two to four
years ago. The place to look at in about two years time is 25 to 40
degrees either side of the sun's "equator", as that is where small short
lived spots would indicate the start of the new cycle and the rise in
numbers associated with it. Those spots related to the next cycle can
exist at the same time as the few old cycle spots near the equator.

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