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Intermittent very slight drizzle over the past 24 hours has produced a
total of 0.9 mm in the manual rain gauge but the Davis Vantage Pro has not registered anything. There's a lot of water stuck to the inside walls of the funnel but the individual drops are too small to run down to the bottom so the precipitation has not actually reached the tipping bucket. Does anyone know of a magic potion that can be applied to the inside of the funnel to help even very small drops of water to run down? Norman. (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles England |
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![]() Norman I have the Davis WM2 wired version and have found this a problem with all rainfall. I have a Snowdon type MO gauge that I check it against and over a period of say 4 to 6 weeks the rainfall amounts in the Davis Guage decrease.(because of debris and minute particles of dirt) . I have found this to be the same problem as you are describing. Water droplets remain in the buckets and you miss the tips, or water on the funnel does not make it to the buckets. My solution and it works- Increases the rainfall by up to 10%! Use a silicon polish on the funnel and inside the buckets. Obviuosly care has to be taken with overspray on the reid switch. Use cotton buds on the buckets soaked with polish. This results in all the little droplets cascading off the polished surfaces, just like they do off a polished car surface. Regards Rob Farsley "Norman Lynagh" wrote in message ... Intermittent very slight drizzle over the past 24 hours has produced a total of 0.9 mm in the manual rain gauge but the Davis Vantage Pro has not registered anything. There's a lot of water stuck to the inside walls of the funnel but the individual drops are too small to run down to the bottom so the precipitation has not actually reached the tipping bucket. Does anyone know of a magic potion that can be applied to the inside of the funnel to help even very small drops of water to run down? Norman. (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles England |
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In message , ROBERT BROOKS
writes Norman I have the Davis WM2 wired version and have found this a problem with all rainfall. I have a Snowdon type MO gauge that I check it against and over a period of say 4 to 6 weeks the rainfall amounts in the Davis Guage decrease.(because of debris and minute particles of dirt) . I have found this to be the same problem as you are describing. Water droplets remain in the buckets and you miss the tips, or water on the funnel does not make it to the buckets. My solution and it works- Increases the rainfall by up to 10%! Use a silicon polish on the funnel and inside the buckets. Obviuosly care has to be taken with overspray on the reid switch. Use cotton buds on the buckets soaked with polish. This results in all the little droplets cascading off the polished surfaces, just like they do off a polished car surface. Regards Rob Farsley Many thanks, Rob. I'll give it a try. Thanks also to others who have responded. Norman. (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles England |
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On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 10:09:55 GMT, ROBERT BROOKS wrote:
Use a silicon polish on the funnel and inside the buckets. This certainly helped my WM918 record better. A squirt of Mr Sheen and a good polish means that the water beads and runs down far better. I haven't done the buckets but they empty anyway at least well within the 1mm (7.5ml) resolution of the gauge. The WM918 also comes with a fine wire mesh "leaf trap" this retains several ml of water before releasing it... -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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![]() "Norman Lynagh" wrote in message ... Intermittent very slight drizzle over the past 24 hours has produced a total of 0.9 mm in the manual rain gauge but the Davis Vantage Pro has not registered anything. There's a lot of water stuck to the inside walls of the funnel but the individual drops are too small to run down to the bottom so the precipitation has not actually reached the tipping bucket. Does anyone know of a magic potion that can be applied to the inside of the funnel to help even very small drops of water to run down? Norman. (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles England I found that the problem becomes less marked as the funnel ages; when new the water tended to form globules and did not reach the tipping bucket. Having sid that I think it still under records rainfall in drizzle as the 0.3mm since midnight seems low given the size of the puddles that have formed. My worry about applying anythig to the funnel is that it could make the problem worse. Alan |
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 10:13:51 -0000, Alan Gardiner wrote in
Intermittent very slight drizzle over the past 24 hours has produced a total of 0.9 mm in the manual rain gauge but the Davis Vantage Pro has not registered anything. There's a lot of water stuck to the inside walls of the funnel but the individual drops are too small to run down to the bottom so the precipitation has not actually reached the tipping bucket. Does anyone know of a magic potion that can be applied to the inside of the funnel to help even very small drops of water to run down? I found that the problem becomes less marked as the funnel ages; when new the water tended to form globules and did not reach the tipping bucket. Having sid that I think it still under records rainfall in drizzle as the 0.3mm since midnight seems low given the size of the puddles that have formed. I would agree with the idea age is a factor. Many years ago, I noticed how water globules tended to remain on the inside of new standard 5" gauges and not run down into the collector. As part of an experiment on comparing ground level gauges with the those at the standard height, I compared two at the standard height - one new(ish) and one old. At times of lowish rainfall, there was a significant deficit measured by the new one. Trouble is the figures have left my head. -- Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 07/11/2004 10:34:21 UTC |
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Mike Tullett" wrote in message
... On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 10:13:51 -0000, Alan Gardiner wrote in Intermittent very slight drizzle over the past 24 hours has produced a total of 0.9 mm in the manual rain gauge but the Davis Vantage Pro has not registered anything. There's a lot of water stuck to the inside walls of the funnel but the individual drops are too small to run down to the bottom so the precipitation has not actually reached the tipping bucket. Does anyone know of a magic potion that can be applied to the inside of the funnel to help even very small drops of water to run down? I found that the problem becomes less marked as the funnel ages; when new the water tended to form globules and did not reach the tipping bucket. Having sid that I think it still under records rainfall in drizzle as the 0.3mm since midnight seems low given the size of the puddles that have formed. I would agree with the idea age is a factor. Many years ago, I noticed how water globules tended to remain on the inside of new standard 5" gauges and not run down into the collector. As part of an experiment on comparing ground level gauges with the those at the standard height, I compared two at the standard height - one new(ish) and one old. At times of lowish rainfall, there was a significant deficit measured by the new one. Trouble is the figures have left my head. -- Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 07/11/2004 10:34:21 UTC I used to crew on the Admirals Cup and before all the racing and after the press had taken the pictures of the boat out of that water we used to wet and dry the hull. The theory being this is you get a layer of water sticking to the surface and this reduced the friction of the water passing the hull. Polish was a big no no below the water line. So I guess this could be said for the rain bucket. The hole does block up quite quickly if its been dry then wet and then dry again. Steve -- The UK SpeedTrap Guide" @ www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk The UK Weather Guide" @ www.ukstorms.com |
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