On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:04:31 -0000, "Jack Harrison"
wrote:


"lawrence Jenkins" wrote


Anyway, you have made me rethink about my retirement. Maybe I should see if
I can retrain as a Catholic priest.

Wrong sort of credentials, Jack.

(Wink wink, nudge nudge)

Martin

In article ,
David Gartrell writes:
I've noticed there are quite a few newsgroups out there that are moderated,
i.e. one or more people vet the posts before they make it onto the
newsgroup. Regular contributors , after a while, have their posts accepted
autoatically and other posts are vetted for their suitability before
appearing. Isn't there something similar that could be employed here?


I'm afraid not, at least not without a great deal of time and effort
spent going through the "due process", by which time hopefully the
flooding would only be a distant memory. Have a look on:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/
and
http://www.moderation.org.uk/

to get an idea of what would be involved.
--
John Hall Weep not for little Leonie
Abducted by a French Marquis!
Though loss of honour was a wrench
Just think how it's improved her French. Harry Graham (1874-1936)

In article ,
David Gartrell writes:
I've noticed there are quite a few newsgroups out there that are moderated,
i.e. one or more people vet the posts before they make it onto the
newsgroup. Regular contributors , after a while, have their posts accepted
autoatically and other posts are vetted for their suitability before
appearing. Isn't there something similar that could be employed here?


I'm afraid not, at least not without a great deal of time and effort
spent going through the "due process", by which time hopefully the
flooding would only be a distant memory. Have a look on:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/
and
http://www.moderation.org.uk/

to get an idea of what would be involved.
--
John Hall Weep not for little Leonie
Abducted by a French Marquis!
Though loss of honour was a wrench
Just think how it's improved her French. Harry Graham (1874-1936)

In article ,
David Gartrell writes:
I've noticed there are quite a few newsgroups out there that are moderated,
i.e. one or more people vet the posts before they make it onto the
newsgroup. Regular contributors , after a while, have their posts accepted
autoatically and other posts are vetted for their suitability before
appearing. Isn't there something similar that could be employed here?


I'm afraid not, at least not without a great deal of time and effort
spent going through the "due process", by which time hopefully the
flooding would only be a distant memory. Have a look on:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/
and
http://www.moderation.org.uk/

to get an idea of what would be involved.
--
John Hall Weep not for little Leonie
Abducted by a French Marquis!
Though loss of honour was a wrench
Just think how it's improved her French. Harry Graham (1874-1936)

In article ,
David Gartrell writes:
I've noticed there are quite a few newsgroups out there that are moderated,
i.e. one or more people vet the posts before they make it onto the
newsgroup. Regular contributors , after a while, have their posts accepted
autoatically and other posts are vetted for their suitability before
appearing. Isn't there something similar that could be employed here?


I'm afraid not, at least not without a great deal of time and effort
spent going through the "due process", by which time hopefully the
flooding would only be a distant memory. Have a look on:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/
and
http://www.moderation.org.uk/

to get an idea of what would be involved.
--
John Hall Weep not for little Leonie
Abducted by a French Marquis!
Though loss of honour was a wrench
Just think how it's improved her French. Harry Graham (1874-1936)

"lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...

"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
...

"David Gartrell" wrote

I've noticed there are quite a few newsgroups out there that are
moderated, ...snip

Great idea, but who would find the time to look after such a busy
newsgroup as this one?

Jack
People that have retired early.

Seriously though, the trouble with moderated groups or forums is, they are
open to moderator subjective abuse as well . In addition many are run by
private companies to promote their own products. For me some moderators
have
a traffic-warden like mentality. Uksciweather even though unmoderated
still
is remarkable for the lack of bad language and good behaviour. Okay there
may be some time-wasters ( ? ) but overall despite yeterdays debacle which
happened on a heavily moderated forum as well, things surely aren't that
bad
on here .
I think one problem is, being a weather group if the weather isn't doing
that much people will tend to go OT and why not ? it's hopefully part of
the
general bonhomie of the group. Moderated groups tend to become "follow
the
party line or you're banned" that then becomes effectively very subjective
censorship.



Yes I agree with you Lawrence. USW is self moderated, people have self
responsibility to post appropriate messages, and not to use bad language or
too spam. In other words it is typically British.

Of course, there are a few idiots, but I think that is a price worth paying,
for having a generally open and objective ng.

I think that if it was moderated, then there is a possibility that cronyism
will come about with some contributors getting away with inappropriate
messages.

I'm an OU student, and I go into some of there internal newsgroups run by
the student union, and they are very political correct, as can be expected,
as most of the students running the internal newsgroups are either
socialists or communists. Yet some students can get away with the most
political incorrect statements, those students which are matey with the
moderators. Yet if a student is not matey with the moderators, a ton of
bricks fall upon them. So much for democracy with socialists!

So in all, I think this ng should stay as it is.

--
Joe
Wolverhampton

"lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...

"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
...

"David Gartrell" wrote

I've noticed there are quite a few newsgroups out there that are
moderated, ...snip

Great idea, but who would find the time to look after such a busy
newsgroup as this one?

Jack
People that have retired early.

Seriously though, the trouble with moderated groups or forums is, they are
open to moderator subjective abuse as well . In addition many are run by
private companies to promote their own products. For me some moderators
have
a traffic-warden like mentality. Uksciweather even though unmoderated
still
is remarkable for the lack of bad language and good behaviour. Okay there
may be some time-wasters ( ? ) but overall despite yeterdays debacle which
happened on a heavily moderated forum as well, things surely aren't that
bad
on here .
I think one problem is, being a weather group if the weather isn't doing
that much people will tend to go OT and why not ? it's hopefully part of
the
general bonhomie of the group. Moderated groups tend to become "follow
the
party line or you're banned" that then becomes effectively very subjective
censorship.



Yes I agree with you Lawrence. USW is self moderated, people have self
responsibility to post appropriate messages, and not to use bad language or
too spam. In other words it is typically British.

Of course, there are a few idiots, but I think that is a price worth paying,
for having a generally open and objective ng.

I think that if it was moderated, then there is a possibility that cronyism
will come about with some contributors getting away with inappropriate
messages.

I'm an OU student, and I go into some of there internal newsgroups run by
the student union, and they are very political correct, as can be expected,
as most of the students running the internal newsgroups are either
socialists or communists. Yet some students can get away with the most
political incorrect statements, those students which are matey with the
moderators. Yet if a student is not matey with the moderators, a ton of
bricks fall upon them. So much for democracy with socialists!

So in all, I think this ng should stay as it is.

--
Joe
Wolverhampton

"lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...

"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
...

"David Gartrell" wrote

I've noticed there are quite a few newsgroups out there that are
moderated, ...snip

Great idea, but who would find the time to look after such a busy
newsgroup as this one?

Jack
People that have retired early.

Seriously though, the trouble with moderated groups or forums is, they are
open to moderator subjective abuse as well . In addition many are run by
private companies to promote their own products. For me some moderators
have
a traffic-warden like mentality. Uksciweather even though unmoderated
still
is remarkable for the lack of bad language and good behaviour. Okay there
may be some time-wasters ( ? ) but overall despite yeterdays debacle which
happened on a heavily moderated forum as well, things surely aren't that
bad
on here .
I think one problem is, being a weather group if the weather isn't doing
that much people will tend to go OT and why not ? it's hopefully part of
the
general bonhomie of the group. Moderated groups tend to become "follow
the
party line or you're banned" that then becomes effectively very subjective
censorship.



Yes I agree with you Lawrence. USW is self moderated, people have self
responsibility to post appropriate messages, and not to use bad language or
too spam. In other words it is typically British.

Of course, there are a few idiots, but I think that is a price worth paying,
for having a generally open and objective ng.

I think that if it was moderated, then there is a possibility that cronyism
will come about with some contributors getting away with inappropriate
messages.

I'm an OU student, and I go into some of there internal newsgroups run by
the student union, and they are very political correct, as can be expected,
as most of the students running the internal newsgroups are either
socialists or communists. Yet some students can get away with the most
political incorrect statements, those students which are matey with the
moderators. Yet if a student is not matey with the moderators, a ton of
bricks fall upon them. So much for democracy with socialists!

So in all, I think this ng should stay as it is.

--
Joe
Wolverhampton

"lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...

"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
...

"David Gartrell" wrote

I've noticed there are quite a few newsgroups out there that are
moderated, ...snip

Great idea, but who would find the time to look after such a busy
newsgroup as this one?

Jack
People that have retired early.

Seriously though, the trouble with moderated groups or forums is, they are
open to moderator subjective abuse as well . In addition many are run by
private companies to promote their own products. For me some moderators
have
a traffic-warden like mentality. Uksciweather even though unmoderated
still
is remarkable for the lack of bad language and good behaviour. Okay there
may be some time-wasters ( ? ) but overall despite yeterdays debacle which
happened on a heavily moderated forum as well, things surely aren't that
bad
on here .
I think one problem is, being a weather group if the weather isn't doing
that much people will tend to go OT and why not ? it's hopefully part of
the
general bonhomie of the group. Moderated groups tend to become "follow
the
party line or you're banned" that then becomes effectively very subjective
censorship.



Yes I agree with you Lawrence. USW is self moderated, people have self
responsibility to post appropriate messages, and not to use bad language or
too spam. In other words it is typically British.

Of course, there are a few idiots, but I think that is a price worth paying,
for having a generally open and objective ng.

I think that if it was moderated, then there is a possibility that cronyism
will come about with some contributors getting away with inappropriate
messages.

I'm an OU student, and I go into some of there internal newsgroups run by
the student union, and they are very political correct, as can be expected,
as most of the students running the internal newsgroups are either
socialists or communists. Yet some students can get away with the most
political incorrect statements, those students which are matey with the
moderators. Yet if a student is not matey with the moderators, a ton of
bricks fall upon them. So much for democracy with socialists!

So in all, I think this ng should stay as it is.

--
Joe
Wolverhampton

"David Gartrell" wrote in message
...
I've noticed there are quite a few newsgroups out there that are moderated,
i.e. one or more people vet the posts before they make it onto the
newsgroup. Regular contributors , after a while, have their posts accepted
autoatically and other posts are vetted for their suitability before
appearing. Isn't there something similar that could be employed here?

There is a moderated newsgroup for UK weather called TWO! Enough said :-?

Cheers, Alastair.