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Philip Eden wrote:

Jonathan, or anyone, do you have any information about
snowdepths over the East Kent Snowtrap (i.e. the North
Downs between Canterbury, Dover, Folkestone and
Ashford)? Someone told me that there was "about six
inches" this morning. That "about" worries me. If it was
the average of several measurements then fine, I'll
accept it, but if it was an estimate then I would divide by
two or three because people always grossly over-
estimate snow-depths.


Philip,

Here in Canterbury we got about 5cm generally (8m ASL). There wasn't any
more at the University campus (50m ASL). Can't say about the Downs,
unfortunately, but six inches seems somewhat of an overestimate.

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It never ceases to amaze me how many posts refer to 'it won't settle because
it's too wet ! .No lads, it won't settle ,not because it's too wet but
because it's too warm !
It can pee down with rain for 12 hours at 2C,,but as soon as the temp drops
to zero ,it freezes and then settles .Bloody obvious to me.....like saying
it's too cold to snow ,but we won't go there eh /

RonB
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"Dave.C" wrote in message
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I know I'm getting boring but I'm sure most people are surprised it hasn't
settled more!

It's a theme that's cropped up on some Web based message boards as well.

The only thing I can say for certain is that given heavy enough snow (of
the big fluffy flake sort), it *will* settle, even if the roads are
soaking wet after rain/melted snow. Until today the last time I saw that
in action was the snow event in January 2004, which started with a few
minutes of heavy rain which turned to heavy snow and promptly settled.

Other than that, there's got to be an obvious reason why the snow's having
such trouble settling in this spell. I'd be tempted to say it's the
radiation absorbed during the day that's causing it to melt so quickly,
but that wouldn't apply to snow falling early in the day.







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It never ceases to amaze me how many posts refer to 'it won't settle because
it's too wet ! .No lads, it won't settle ,not because it's too wet but
because it's too warm !
It can pee down with rain for 12 hours at 2C,,but as soon as the temp drops
to zero ,it freezes and then settles .Bloody obvious to me.....like saying
it's too cold to snow ,but we won't go there eh /

RonB
"Darren Prescott" wrote in message
...
"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
I know I'm getting boring but I'm sure most people are surprised it hasn't
settled more!

It's a theme that's cropped up on some Web based message boards as well.

The only thing I can say for certain is that given heavy enough snow (of
the big fluffy flake sort), it *will* settle, even if the roads are
soaking wet after rain/melted snow. Until today the last time I saw that
in action was the snow event in January 2004, which started with a few
minutes of heavy rain which turned to heavy snow and promptly settled.

Other than that, there's got to be an obvious reason why the snow's having
such trouble settling in this spell. I'd be tempted to say it's the
radiation absorbed during the day that's causing it to melt so quickly,
but that wouldn't apply to snow falling early in the day.







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It never ceases to amaze me how many posts refer to 'it won't settle because
it's too wet ! .No lads, it won't settle ,not because it's too wet but
because it's too warm !
It can pee down with rain for 12 hours at 2C,,but as soon as the temp drops
to zero ,it freezes and then settles .Bloody obvious to me.....like saying
it's too cold to snow ,but we won't go there eh /

RonB
"Darren Prescott" wrote in message
...
"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
I know I'm getting boring but I'm sure most people are surprised it hasn't
settled more!

It's a theme that's cropped up on some Web based message boards as well.

The only thing I can say for certain is that given heavy enough snow (of
the big fluffy flake sort), it *will* settle, even if the roads are
soaking wet after rain/melted snow. Until today the last time I saw that
in action was the snow event in January 2004, which started with a few
minutes of heavy rain which turned to heavy snow and promptly settled.

Other than that, there's got to be an obvious reason why the snow's having
such trouble settling in this spell. I'd be tempted to say it's the
radiation absorbed during the day that's causing it to melt so quickly,
but that wouldn't apply to snow falling early in the day.







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It never ceases to amaze me how many posts refer to 'it won't settle because
it's too wet ! .No lads, it won't settle ,not because it's too wet but
because it's too warm !
It can pee down with rain for 12 hours at 2C,,but as soon as the temp drops
to zero ,it freezes and then settles .Bloody obvious to me.....like saying
it's too cold to snow ,but we won't go there eh /

RonB
"Darren Prescott" wrote in message
...
"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
I know I'm getting boring but I'm sure most people are surprised it hasn't
settled more!

It's a theme that's cropped up on some Web based message boards as well.

The only thing I can say for certain is that given heavy enough snow (of
the big fluffy flake sort), it *will* settle, even if the roads are
soaking wet after rain/melted snow. Until today the last time I saw that
in action was the snow event in January 2004, which started with a few
minutes of heavy rain which turned to heavy snow and promptly settled.

Other than that, there's got to be an obvious reason why the snow's having
such trouble settling in this spell. I'd be tempted to say it's the
radiation absorbed during the day that's causing it to melt so quickly,
but that wouldn't apply to snow falling early in the day.









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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:43:22 +0000, Jonathan Stott
wrote:

Philip Eden wrote:

Jonathan, or anyone, do you have any information about
snowdepths over the East Kent Snowtrap (i.e. the North
Downs between Canterbury, Dover, Folkestone and
Ashford)? Someone told me that there was "about six
inches" this morning. That "about" worries me. If it was
the average of several measurements then fine, I'll
accept it, but if it was an estimate then I would divide by
two or three because people always grossly over-
estimate snow-depths.


Philip,

Here in Canterbury we got about 5cm generally (8m ASL). There wasn't any
more at the University campus (50m ASL). Can't say about the Downs,
unfortunately, but six inches seems somewhat of an overestimate.


I have no measurements to speak of but driving around the area from
Canterbury to Maidstone, down to Ashford, across to Folkstone and back
up the Thanet Way to Herne Bay, the area that had significantly more
snow than most was the Ashford area. Locally I wouldn't be surprised
if there were depths of 5" around that area.


Mark Chamberlain
Herne Bay, Kent
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:43:22 +0000, Jonathan Stott
wrote:

Philip Eden wrote:

Jonathan, or anyone, do you have any information about
snowdepths over the East Kent Snowtrap (i.e. the North
Downs between Canterbury, Dover, Folkestone and
Ashford)? Someone told me that there was "about six
inches" this morning. That "about" worries me. If it was
the average of several measurements then fine, I'll
accept it, but if it was an estimate then I would divide by
two or three because people always grossly over-
estimate snow-depths.


Philip,

Here in Canterbury we got about 5cm generally (8m ASL). There wasn't any
more at the University campus (50m ASL). Can't say about the Downs,
unfortunately, but six inches seems somewhat of an overestimate.


I have no measurements to speak of but driving around the area from
Canterbury to Maidstone, down to Ashford, across to Folkstone and back
up the Thanet Way to Herne Bay, the area that had significantly more
snow than most was the Ashford area. Locally I wouldn't be surprised
if there were depths of 5" around that area.


Mark Chamberlain
Herne Bay, Kent
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:43:22 +0000, Jonathan Stott
wrote:

Philip Eden wrote:

Jonathan, or anyone, do you have any information about
snowdepths over the East Kent Snowtrap (i.e. the North
Downs between Canterbury, Dover, Folkestone and
Ashford)? Someone told me that there was "about six
inches" this morning. That "about" worries me. If it was
the average of several measurements then fine, I'll
accept it, but if it was an estimate then I would divide by
two or three because people always grossly over-
estimate snow-depths.


Philip,

Here in Canterbury we got about 5cm generally (8m ASL). There wasn't any
more at the University campus (50m ASL). Can't say about the Downs,
unfortunately, but six inches seems somewhat of an overestimate.


I have no measurements to speak of but driving around the area from
Canterbury to Maidstone, down to Ashford, across to Folkstone and back
up the Thanet Way to Herne Bay, the area that had significantly more
snow than most was the Ashford area. Locally I wouldn't be surprised
if there were depths of 5" around that area.


Mark Chamberlain
Herne Bay, Kent
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:43:22 +0000, Jonathan Stott
wrote:

Philip Eden wrote:

Jonathan, or anyone, do you have any information about
snowdepths over the East Kent Snowtrap (i.e. the North
Downs between Canterbury, Dover, Folkestone and
Ashford)? Someone told me that there was "about six
inches" this morning. That "about" worries me. If it was
the average of several measurements then fine, I'll
accept it, but if it was an estimate then I would divide by
two or three because people always grossly over-
estimate snow-depths.


Philip,

Here in Canterbury we got about 5cm generally (8m ASL). There wasn't any
more at the University campus (50m ASL). Can't say about the Downs,
unfortunately, but six inches seems somewhat of an overestimate.


I have no measurements to speak of but driving around the area from
Canterbury to Maidstone, down to Ashford, across to Folkstone and back
up the Thanet Way to Herne Bay, the area that had significantly more
snow than most was the Ashford area. Locally I wouldn't be surprised
if there were depths of 5" around that area.


Mark Chamberlain
Herne Bay, Kent
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We know that Ron. What we're saying, and I can't believe you've never seen
it, that heavy snow, whacking big flakes, with air temp around 0.5C - 1.0C
is not only failing to settle on the ground but also on already lying snow.
(although last one is from Darren!). Air is often is above freezing when
snow settles. Still think it's under soil heating!

Anyway lets hope this next burst does better for whatever reason.

Dave
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It never ceases to amaze me how many posts refer to 'it won't settle

because
it's too wet ! .No lads, it won't settle ,not because it's too wet but
because it's too warm !
It can pee down with rain for 12 hours at 2C,,but as soon as the temp

drops
to zero ,it freezes and then settles .Bloody obvious to me.....like saying
it's too cold to snow ,but we won't go there eh /

RonB
"Darren Prescott" wrote in message
...
"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
I know I'm getting boring but I'm sure most people are surprised it

hasn't
settled more!

It's a theme that's cropped up on some Web based message boards as well.

The only thing I can say for certain is that given heavy enough snow (of
the big fluffy flake sort), it *will* settle, even if the roads are
soaking wet after rain/melted snow. Until today the last time I saw that
in action was the snow event in January 2004, which started with a few
minutes of heavy rain which turned to heavy snow and promptly settled.

Other than that, there's got to be an obvious reason why the snow's

having
such trouble settling in this spell. I'd be tempted to say it's the
radiation absorbed during the day that's causing it to melt so quickly,
but that wouldn't apply to snow falling early in the day.











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