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Yesterday a chain of snow showers, induced by open sea at Gulf of
Finland, poured (is there a more approppriate word for solid
precipitation ?) snow to coastal parts of the town, and at the entire
southern coastline (up to 20 cm). Bad driving conditions but no serious
accidents. Snow blocked the moving parts of tram tracks so in the
evening tracks there were delays up to one hour.

Yes this reminds me of another town on an lonely island...

Elena, back home
ps a photo of Helsinki main street in the evening
http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/tuore.../1076154588715

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You could use the word 'dumped'. Nice pic of snowy street. Ah, trams!. Used
to have them in Reading, 50 years ago, and in London too. Now a few new
tracks operating in parts of London and Manchester, but now a patch on the
old double deckers from my childhood. Switching off nostalgic mode.

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Wokingham, Berkshire, UK.

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Yesterday a chain of snow showers, induced by open sea at Gulf of
Finland, poured (is there a more approppriate word for solid
precipitation ?) snow


Elena, back home
ps a photo of Helsinki main street in the evening
http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/tuore.../1076154588715



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In article ,
Elena Saltikoff writes:
Yesterday a chain of snow showers, induced by open sea at Gulf of
Finland, poured (is there a more approppriate word for solid
precipitation ?) snow to coastal parts of the town, and at the entire
southern coastline (up to 20 cm). Bad driving conditions but no serious
accidents. Snow blocked the moving parts of tram tracks so in the
evening tracks there were delays up to one hour.


You're in danger of destroying our illusion that countries like Finland
cope much better with snow than we do.

Yes this reminds me of another town on an lonely island...



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That's a lovely image, all the trappings of our modern world shops,
lighting, cars and even tram set against such heavy snow that doesn't melt.
I know it's daft, but wouldn't it be beautiful to see that here . It can
happen looking at the latest GFS! I can see the easterly wind whipping up
heavy snow showers from the Gulf of Catford and depositing them in Sydenham
Road. Sava Center, Morrissons and Lidyls all having to put little sled type
runners on their shopping trolleys.
Mind you we've never really tested the Doner kebab under such conditions.
I'm concerned that in temperatures like that they would (the high fat
content) congeal immediatley with despratley sad scenarios of people sort
of 'caught in time' found stuck to bus stops the next day.
Imagine poor old Tudor having to junp start his Trombone!





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Yesterday a chain of snow showers, induced by open sea at Gulf of Finland,
poured (is there a more approppriate word for solid precipitation ?) snow
to coastal parts of the town, and at the entire southern coastline (up to
20 cm). Bad driving conditions but no serious accidents. Snow blocked the
moving parts of tram tracks so in the evening tracks there were delays up
to one hour.

Yes this reminds me of another town on an lonely island...

Elena, back home
ps a photo of Helsinki main street in the evening
http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/tuore.../1076154588715



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"Elena Saltikoff" wrote in message
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Yesterday a chain of snow showers, induced by open sea at Gulf of Finland,
poured (is there a more approppriate word for solid precipitation ?)
.......


Maybe the answer was in The Times on Friday. According to 'A Correspondent'
'Much of Britain saw its first snow of the winter with downfalls reported as
far south as Oxfordshire and Milton Keynes'

I am reluctant to wish snow enthusiasts some splendid downfalls this
winter.......but there again.....;-)

All the best


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George in foggy Epping, West Essex (107m asl)
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"George Booth" wrote in message
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"Elena Saltikoff" wrote in message
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Yesterday a chain of snow showers, induced by open sea at Gulf of
Finland, poured (is there a more approppriate word for solid
precipitation ?) .......


Maybe the answer was in The Times on Friday. According to 'A
Correspondent' 'Much of Britain saw its first snow of the winter with
downfalls reported as far south as Oxfordshire and Milton Keynes'

They might have got into even more trouble if they had said:
" ... with dumps as far south as ... Milton Keynes."!

pe


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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:02:16 +0200, Elena Saltikoff
wrote:

Yesterday a chain of snow showers, induced by open sea at Gulf of
Finland, poured (is there a more approppriate word for solid
precipitation ?) snow to coastal parts of the town, and at the entire
southern coastline (up to 20 cm). Bad driving conditions but no serious
accidents. Snow blocked the moving parts of tram tracks so in the
evening tracks there were delays up to one hour.

Lake Effect?
http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weathe...s/lkefsnw1.htm

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Dave... green with envy
Fareham.
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Dave Ludlow wrote:
Yesterday a chain of snow showers, induced by open sea at Gulf of
Finland,

Lake Effect?
http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weathe...s/lkefsnw1.htm


Yes indeed. Blue sky prevailing at the airport (less than 20 km north).


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Bernard Burton wrote in message ...
: .... Ah, trams!. Used
:to have them in Reading, 50 years ago, and in London too.

Still plenty of trams in Brussels - a few of them are over 40 years old.
Certainly not enough snow here in recent winters to cause jammed points as
in Helsinki.

Most recent weather-related tram incident in Brussels was on 21st October
after the thunderstorm with heavy rain and strong winds overnight. A tram
ran into the back of another going uphill (!) and several passengers were
hurt. Cause was probably that the second tram couldn't brake in time when
the first one stopped. The rain and wind had brought down a lot of leaves
which became ground into a pulp and made the tracks greasy so that the
wheels lost grip.

Colin Youngs
Brussels




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Imagine poor old Tudor having to junp start his Trombone!

I wouldn't go anywhere near a trombone in conditions like that. Quite
apart from the mouthpiece freezing to your lips it would play dreadfully flat.
And the slide lubricant (mostly a water spray) would get a bit "stiff", shall
we say.

Tudor Hughes.


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