On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 08:45:15 +0000, Joe wrote in


Hello All,

It's that old chestnut, can anyone point me in the right direction for a
table of the sunrise/sunset times of December and January.

Has a woman that I work with was saying that the nights get lighter
after 21st December, when it's actually about a week earlier than the 21st.

Hi Joe

This site does what you want I think. It will show the darkest evening
happening before the solstice, yet the mornings getting darker until the
end of December. Here in Coleraine the earliest sunset seems to be around
the 13th.

http://www.onlineweather.com/v4/uk/sun/

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/11/2004 09:15:47 UTC

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http://www.onlineweather.com/v4/uk/sun/

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/11/2004
09:15:47 UTC


This is a really excellent site and it downloads very quickly. Well done for
finding that one :-)

Gavin.

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http://www.onlineweather.com/v4/uk/sun/

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/11/2004
09:15:47 UTC


This is a really excellent site and it downloads very quickly. Well done for
finding that one :-)

Yes, excellent. I was most surprised to see that the earliest sunset
will occur on the 11th December in both Southampton and Portsmouth
(3:59pm), I am between the two. I was equally surprised to see that
Southampton's latest sunrise will occur on New Year's Day!

I couldn't care too hoots about the mornings, so it's great to know
the evenings will start getting lighter in a fortnight.

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Dave
Fareham

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http://www.onlineweather.com/v4/uk/sun/

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/11/2004
09:15:47 UTC


This is a really excellent site and it downloads very quickly. Well done
for
finding that one :-)

Yes, excellent. I was most surprised to see that the earliest sunset
will occur on the 11th December in both Southampton and Portsmouth
(3:59pm), I am between the two. I was equally surprised to see that
Southampton's latest sunrise will occur on New Year's Day!

I couldn't care too hoots about the mornings, so it's great to know
the evenings will start getting lighter in a fortnight.

--
Dave
Fareham


I wonder if anyone can give the precise reasons for why it gets marginally
darker in the mornings for a week or so after Dec 21st. The late Michael
Hunt from Anglia TV gave a description as to why. However, this was now over
20 years ago and I cannot remember the precise reasons. Apart from the fact
it is due to the fact that the earth's rotation around the sun is not a
precise circle, despite popular belief that it is. I cannot remember the
other reasons.
I wonder if anyone on this ng does know why?

Gavin.

"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
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I wonder if anyone can give the precise reasons for why it gets marginally
darker in the mornings for a week or so after Dec 21st. The late Michael
Hunt from Anglia TV gave a description as to why. However, this was now
over
20 years ago and I cannot remember the precise reasons. Apart from the
fact
it is due to the fact that the earth's rotation around the sun is not a
precise circle, despite popular belief that it is. I cannot remember the
other reasons.
I wonder if anyone on this ng does know why?

Gavin.

Gavin, Google or similar on "Equation of Time".

Regards, Roger

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:35:53 GMT, Roger Smith wrote in


"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
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I wonder if anyone can give the precise reasons for why it gets marginally
darker in the mornings for a week or so after Dec 21st. The late Michael
Hunt from Anglia TV gave a description as to why. However, this was now
over
20 years ago and I cannot remember the precise reasons. Apart from the
fact
it is due to the fact that the earth's rotation around the sun is not a
precise circle, despite popular belief that it is. I cannot remember the
other reasons.
I wonder if anyone on this ng does know why?

Gavin.

Gavin, Google or similar on "Equation of Time".

This topic comes up quite often. The last time we discussed it here was
last December. Here is the thread as archived by Google.

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl...3D%26 hl%3Den

or

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O1C0310E9

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/11/2004 14:46:36 UTC

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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:35:53 GMT, Roger Smith wrote in


"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
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I wonder if anyone can give the precise reasons for why it gets
marginally
darker in the mornings for a week or so after Dec 21st. The late
Michael
Hunt from Anglia TV gave a description as to why. However, this was now
over
20 years ago and I cannot remember the precise reasons. Apart from the
fact
it is due to the fact that the earth's rotation around the sun is not a
precise circle, despite popular belief that it is. I cannot remember
the
other reasons.
I wonder if anyone on this ng does know why?

Gavin.

Gavin, Google or similar on "Equation of Time".

This topic comes up quite often. The last time we discussed it here was
last December. Here is the thread as archived by Google.


http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl...vui2oqnpr0tgcr
6pn7l7cfll%404ax.com&rnum=7&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3Dsunrise%2520sunset%2520tim
es%26safe%3Dimages%26as_ugroup%3Duk.sci.weather%26 lr%3D%26hl%3Den

or

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O1C0310E9

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/11/2004
14:46:36 UTC



Thanks very much:-) Thank goodness I did a decent bit of physics :-)

Regards, Gavin.

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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 08:45:15 +0000, Joe wrote in


http://www.onlineweather.com/v4/uk/sun/

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/11/2004

09:15:47 UTC


This is a really excellent site and it downloads very quickly. Well done

for

finding that one :-)


Yes, excellent. I was most surprised to see that the earliest sunset
will occur on the 11th December in both Southampton and Portsmouth
(3:59pm), I am between the two. I was equally surprised to see that
Southampton's latest sunrise will occur on New Year's Day!

I couldn't care too hoots about the mornings, so it's great to know
the evenings will start getting lighter in a fortnight.

--
Dave
Fareham



I wonder if anyone can give the precise reasons for why it gets marginally
darker in the mornings for a week or so after Dec 21st. The late Michael
Hunt from Anglia TV gave a description as to why. However, this was now over
20 years ago and I cannot remember the precise reasons. Apart from the fact
it is due to the fact that the earth's rotation around the sun is not a
precise circle, despite popular belief that it is. I cannot remember the
other reasons.
I wonder if anyone on this ng does know why?

Gavin.




Something to do with, as you say the elliptical orbit of the Earth, and
it's tilt, and something called the Equation of Time

Joe
Wolverhampton