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Well, i need to move away from weather display, more data is going missing
and i think its cause the software keeps crashing the computer!! I have decided to look at 2 pieces of softwa- Weatherlink, i think i have version 5.4 Virtual Weather Station The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Or could i buy myself a Access 2003 book, learn databases more and make my own like Jonathan Scott did that was mentioned in teh previous post below. Stuart |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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i like your thinking, i have now got weatherlink 5.4v running, i will look
into reporting tools for graphs etc.. but for now, i will let WL do the data capturing, and hopefully, it wont loose data like wd did. Its a shame, as i did have WD uploading data as a XML page so i could see the weather on my mobile phone. Never mind. "John Dann" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell" wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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i like your thinking, i have now got weatherlink 5.4v running, i will look
into reporting tools for graphs etc.. but for now, i will let WL do the data capturing, and hopefully, it wont loose data like wd did. Its a shame, as i did have WD uploading data as a XML page so i could see the weather on my mobile phone. Never mind. "John Dann" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell" wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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i like your thinking, i have now got weatherlink 5.4v running, i will look
into reporting tools for graphs etc.. but for now, i will let WL do the data capturing, and hopefully, it wont loose data like wd did. Its a shame, as i did have WD uploading data as a XML page so i could see the weather on my mobile phone. Never mind. "John Dann" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell" wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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i like your thinking, i have now got weatherlink 5.4v running, i will look
into reporting tools for graphs etc.. but for now, i will let WL do the data capturing, and hopefully, it wont loose data like wd did. Its a shame, as i did have WD uploading data as a XML page so i could see the weather on my mobile phone. Never mind. "John Dann" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell" wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. I copy everything now to Excel, on a daily basis, and find that I can retrieve much more from it. I have only very basic computer knowledge, so if I can, anyone can. -- David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire. |
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